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Subject: over 1,000 on wish list yet......
Date Posted: 3/5/2014 12:51 PM ET
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I have to wait 2 days for each person who doesn't want the book anymore to say no? geeze

I put this book on Sunday night thinking it would be grabbed and I could mail it Monday.

Now its not so convenient for me to deal with it (long story) - how can I take it off?

 

Date Posted: 3/5/2014 1:19 PM ET
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Put your account on vacation before it rolls over to the next person and delete it from your bookshelf.  If this person accepts the book you really should accept and mail it as it's not their fault that you got busy in the mean time. But if you really no longer have time to mail the book out then hit "cannot mail the book" and it'll remove it form your shelf.

Date Posted: 3/5/2014 2:09 PM ET
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Thank you for your advice Mary L. I'll try to put on vacation.

No, I wouldn't do that to anyone - say I could mail it then not do it unless it was an emergency. I can work something out - this book happens to be a large book I would have to mail from post office and I can get someone to take for me  hopefully:)

Regards,

Denise



Last Edited on: 3/5/14 2:22 PM ET - Total times edited: 2
Date Posted: 3/5/2014 2:19 PM ET
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Unfortunately, that didn't work.  Oh wait, - you mean once time has run out with the person it is currently offering it to it won't go to the next person because I've put on vacation?  OK I'll wait and see what happens.  Had a duh moment there:)

Denise



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Date Posted: 3/5/2014 3:07 PM ET
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Denise, if you use PBS postage or something like PayPal postage, you can mail the book from your house, if that helps.

Date Posted: 3/5/2014 3:08 PM ET
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Yes.  The current order will continue until it times out in the middle of the night.  Or they select the "not now" button.  But with the vacation hold on, the order will not roll over to the next member.   This gives you a chance to wait or delete the book.

Date Posted: 3/5/2014 3:34 PM ET
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Thanks for all good advice. 

No I don't use PayPal or PBS postage, as my postal carrier is a putz and I've seen him purposely throw to the ground packages I've tried to send this way. There are so few people now at my P.O. that even care anymore.  It used to be full of great people but since the lay-offs, early retirement, etc. its been quite bad. Sad to say as I used to work summers at the P.O. and it was such a great institution - but thats another subject.

 

 

 



Last Edited on: 3/5/14 3:34 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 3/5/2014 5:42 PM ET
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You could print the postage out and then put the book in a post office blue box or just set it on the counter and not have to stand in line. Just a thought. 

Also you can wait 5 days to accept the request and then choose the last possible mail by date. That actually gives you 12 days to mail the book because it won't time out until 2 days after the mail by date.  Not that I recommend doing that all the time but since you know you are going to be busy, this gives you extra time.

Date Posted: 3/6/2014 11:43 AM ET
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Thanks again, all.

I've decided for now to give it a try and hopefully someone will not let it sit for 2 whole days but will answer yes or no.  It is good to know about the vacation hold though if it is ever an emergency. 

This points out a problem (I think) with waiting so long for people to answer.  So many people wishlisted this book, Divergent, and the movie is about to come out and I'm sure there are people who want to read it but getting through this list is as slow as molasses.  Now I'm curious to see how long this is going to take. I hope it gets to someone who is really happy to have it.

Date Posted: 3/7/2014 1:15 AM ET
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Denise--It's frustrating when WL books keep rolling over like that!  I'm sure what happens--especially with popular books is that some people join here add a bunch of books to their Wish List and then lose interest in the site and don't ever come back.  One good thing, is that after a certain number (don't know how many) timed out transactions, these accounts will be put on hold.  So, you can think of it as a service to the active PBS community--you're weeding out inactive accounts. :-)

Post back and let us know how many potential WL'ers you go through before you get a live one.

Date Posted: 3/7/2014 1:48 PM ET
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What really irks me is the fact that people list books, I request them and then they're automatically put on my wish list several days later because they're no longer available!  This has happened at least five times in the past month.  I know when a book is requested you receive an e-mail regarding it.  I don't get it.  Even if their account is inactive, they know they've listed the book.  Why don't they go through and either cancel the account or clean it out of unavailable books?  Are they just ignoring the email?  It's completely frustrating, and disappointing, too, especially if I was looking forward to reading the book.  I had one person tell me he gave the book away (after four days had passed), but he couldn't take time to remove it from his bookshelf beforehand, or let me know earlier.  Personally, I do my best to keep my bookshelf updated, and check my email daily, so I automatically know if a request comes in.

Date Posted: 3/7/2014 4:45 PM ET
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Thanks for understanding Laura and JoAnne -  finally have a winner who took less than about 15 minutes to say she wanted this book. 

I didn't realize if an account is inactive it still waits 2 days geeze.  What you describe, JoAnne, has never happened to me but I'd be upset too! I guess I've been pretty lucky with people not backing out or ignoring books they are offering.  My problem is getting too many water-damaged books don't get me going...lol

So for Divergent it took 5 days and about 7 or 8  or more people, 2 people it sat with for 2 days each ,then there were people who paid attention and  said not now or whatever at least they didn't let it sit 2 days!

Thanks again all.

 

 

Date Posted: 3/7/2014 5:35 PM ET
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That's great Denise. So many folks do abandon their accounts, and maybe change emails too.

Another good thing is those further down the line on the WL have moved up all those spots and they are all that much closer to getting their own copy.  

Just imagine this happening to many of the different members posting a popular book around the same time; for the ones who post the book it may certainly take some patience, but for those (of us) waiting, the line looks like it's really booking!  LOL

It's why some popular books start out with a huge WL and then after hundreds of copies are posted and the craze has died down, the WL evaporates and it becomes a surplus. 



Last Edited on: 3/7/14 5:36 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 4/3/2014 2:46 PM ET
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Linda - yes being on many wish lists as I am,  its slow as molasses:)   I'm finding when I list a book others want that can be slow as molasses, too!.  I did get some people off the Botany of Desire wish list an example of what was once a very  hot book at one time but now after a couple of years not so much.  I was not impatient on that or some others that have taken a while. Another example being The Giver - though that is coming out as a movie soon so I think people are adding while the people who originally wishlisted have disappeared, but I'm not impatient on this especially with the knowledge I'm un-wishlisting the uninterested group, so to speak.  I'm a regular ol' public service, now:)  I'm downsizing so adding a lot of books this year. 

So I have learned 1) very large wishlists of not-just-released books take longer to get a response than 2) A one person wishlist that seems more likely to be on "auto swap" (I forgot the right term but you know what I mean) .

 

Date Posted: 4/3/2014 4:44 PM ET
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I posted a wish listed book one time and it went through 7 people before a request finally came through.

Date Posted: 4/3/2014 5:13 PM ET
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I think my record so far, and its hard to tell because some people actually do respond "not now" and we don't necessarily see it, is 12.  The Giver may set a new record.  It can take a month for a wishlist book to get through to someone who actually wants it at that time.

Date Posted: 4/4/2014 5:30 AM ET
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If you have more than one wish list book, you could post in the wl multiples thread in the Bazaar. You'd have more control over it, and would save postage

Date Posted: 4/4/2014 10:08 PM ET
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It really isn't the norm for it to take a really long time for a Wish List book to get requested, but there are members who cannot be on the site everyday. A 48hr option really isn't that long unless you get a string of them together.

Date Posted: 4/4/2014 11:54 PM ET
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I just had 4 wishlist books sitting there going through the list, two for over a week and the other two about 6 days. I've certainly had many  wishlisted books requested automatically.  This has all been recent experience, years ago never had this happen. Just an observation, no drawing any conclusions except the longer the wishlist as time, years, go by, people have lost interest in the book or are inactive.  It's not a terrible thing but can be inconvenient.  Thats all.

Date Posted: 4/10/2014 6:54 PM ET
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wait, i don't get it.  if you put your acct on vacation hold, how then did it go to yet another requestor in a rollover?  You did the hold thing after 2, and then it rolled over on you again, and someone grabbed it 2 hrs later??

Date Posted: 4/10/2014 7:34 PM ET
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After getting encouragement from several people as to timing, postal alternatives, and the inconvenience factor from the initial posting of the book as the next week was easier for me to deal with it.....I think it was the next week by the time someone actually requested it when it was ok for me to get out.  I did have my account on hold briefly, but then there were a couple books I had a chance of getting I didn't want to lose, - at any rate it all worked out jut fine.  Its all a little hazy now, I've had several wish listed books go through up to 10 people - there is just one now I've had on with 388 people  on the wishlist and we are ending week 1 I think so I'm clearing up that list a bit and hopefully getting a book to someone who has been waiting a long time.

The person who got Divergent I think had  it set for instant swap or automatic swap, I forgot the term.  (I'm still in a bit of a post-chemo haze lol sorry!)

Edit:  Auto request - that is the term.


 



Last Edited on: 4/10/14 7:50 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 4/10/2014 7:44 PM ET
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oh, sorry about the treatments!  I guess I must have looked at the timing of your posts wrong.  I was just curious if putting your acct on hold enabled you to take that book out of the cycle!

Date Posted: 4/10/2014 8:11 PM ET
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I think it didn't have any effect. I think it just marched along down the list.

Date Posted: 4/10/2014 11:17 PM ET
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You have to actually be on vacation hold at the moment the 48 hour wish list hold it up if you want the book to go back to your bookshelf (where you can delete it) instead of being offered to the next wisher in line.  Since she put her account on hold, but changed her mind and removed the vacation hold, the book was offered to the next wisher.  Glad it all worked out!  Auto-request is a great feature.

Date Posted: 4/11/2014 2:40 PM ET
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You can order books while on vacation hold.  You can even set WL books to autorequest so that if you are at the top and it gets posted you can still receive a copy. I put my bookshelf on vacation all the time even when I'm not really on vacation. I just don't want to mail out any books.

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