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Subject: Got a paperback book today, said it was a hardback.
Date Posted: 6/2/2010 5:24 PM ET
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Received a WL book today that said in the discription that it was a hardback book, so I expected a hardback book but when I got it, it was actually a paperback. The weird thing though is that the ISBN numbers totally match. It's not a big deal. I'm happy with the book and didn't mark it RWAP since the ISBN matched, but what happens if I want to repost this and someone actually RWAP the book because it's not a hardback book. Is there a way to get it changed in the info that the ISBN is actually a paperback and not a hardback. Thanks so much!

Date Posted: 6/2/2010 5:33 PM ET
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You should still consider PMing the sender and letting them know that 4 things have to match the PBS listing before they mail a book ... the ISBN, the binding, the title, and the author. (And, if it is marked as Large Print in PBS, it needs to be a LP book). If any of the 4 things don't match ... you could have marked it "RWAP - Wrong Book".

Since you don't actually care which binding it is, it's not a big deal, but would still be nice to let the sender know to check more carefully.

So, regarding what you should do with it ... you should make sure that the book is not a ARC or the like, as those are not postable to PBS at all. (Often, these are paperbakc copies of the book published in advance of the hardcover book, and sent out for review, etc). They are usually marked in some way so that you can tell it is one of these books).

Other than that, you should let someone from the Book Data team know, they can investigate and determine the publishing history of the ISBN as far as it can be determined, and find out if that ISBN is ONLY paperback ... or perhaps is both paperback and hardcover, and thus could be changed to "Unknown Binding" in the system.

If they are not able to get the listing changed, then when you go to re-post the book, you would need to follow the instructions for posting it without an ISBN .... since the binding on your copy doesn't match the PBS listing.

Date Posted: 6/2/2010 5:35 PM ET
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Thanks Sara.

Date Posted: 6/2/2010 6:35 PM ET
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They will only change the listing if there are no other copies posted, no WL line and it can be proving that it never existed in Hardcover.  If you are going to request that they change the binding-do some research and give them proof like other websites where the book is listed as hardcover. The data editing team is all done by volunteers. 

Date Posted: 6/2/2010 7:11 PM ET
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The binding would not be changed to unknown if it is used for both HC and paperback. The first one in the system gets the listing and since it looks like the HC one was first it will stay that way unless there is proof that is completely wrong and the ISBN was never used on a Hard Cover book.

You will need to repost the book through the post a book without an ISBN process. You cannot repost it by the its ISBN when the binding doesn't match what the system says.

Date Posted: 6/2/2010 11:28 PM ET
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What is unknown binding for, then? I thougt I had read somewhere that they sometimes changed listings to that when the ISBN was used for both bindings.

Date Posted: 6/3/2010 2:58 AM ET
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I had that happen recently with  a Batty Crocker Microwave cookbook. It said hardback & i recieved a paperback. I had to go thru 4 requests that all expired so i wasn't gonna complain when i finally recieved the book. It really didn't matter to me.

Date Posted: 6/3/2010 10:37 AM ET
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You could post it on Book Bazaar for 1 credit. Since there is a bit of confusion with the ISBN , etc. I think this would be legal. That way you could be sure the requestor knew what they were getting?! And you would get rid of it quickly I'm sure.

Date Posted: 6/3/2010 10:50 AM ET
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You also might want to check on the inside cover & make sure that it's not an ARC... I've found a few at an FOL sale that came up as hardcovers when their ISBN was entered, (for my TBR list)  but they were really paperback ARC's.

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Date Posted: 6/3/2010 11:34 AM ET
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I had that happen with a children's book I posted. I posted a PB, but the person wanted it in HC. Thankfully she PM'd me before I mailed the book to ask. It was

quickly requested again after she cancelled her request so no negative effect on me, but I guess this happens more often than you'd think.