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Subject: People who claim to be Satanists to piss of Christians.....
Date Posted: 4/15/2009 2:16 PM ET
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Ever notice that people who claim Satanism as a religion but are obviously doing it to piss of Christians have no clue what they are talking about? I was watching a doc the other day and the guy they were following around claimed Satanism as his religion but he was talking all kinds of stupidness. Sacrifices and bloodletting and all kinds of idiotic mess. I mean seriously if your gonna lie at least look it up first.

Date Posted: 4/15/2009 3:11 PM ET
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Honestly, I think if these people were capable of looking things up properly, they would be capable of finding better ways to express their disdain.  I mean, what did the goat community ever do to them?

Date Posted: 4/15/2009 3:19 PM ET
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They would be better off to claim they were liberal atheists or muslims.  That seems to incite their fury more than anything.

Date Posted: 4/15/2009 4:40 PM ET
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Secular humanist seems to get a lot of them going, too.

Date Posted: 4/15/2009 4:48 PM ET
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They aren't too fond of Buddhists, either.  I agree tho, that people who claim to be Satanists but seem to think that consists entirely of dressing in black, getting "satanic" tattoos and being obnoxious prats are just sad.  The only worse thing is the people who believe them.

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Date Posted: 4/15/2009 8:32 PM ET
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Oh, there are a definite difference between real Satanists and people who claim to be Satanists (I call them devil worshippers).  The devil worshippers can be dangerous because they think they should do things like sacrifice animals and wreak terror.  Usually they are just immature wannabes who haven't got a clue about life and aren't smart enough to be real fringe folks.

Date Posted: 4/16/2009 7:13 AM ET
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What I find funny and infuriating all at the same time is the leap police take whenever there are random taggings with symbols not readily recognized from mainstream religions (ie cross, star of david etc.) There was an outbreak of vandalism here about ten years ago (I was studying pagan religions at the time so I was exposed to a lot of symbolism) in which some buildings were tagged with the classic anarchy A. The cops were all a flutter talking about Satanists in our midts. I was like um yeah no those are idiotic teens who just discovered the internet.

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Date Posted: 4/16/2009 11:47 AM ET
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Satanism is a form of Christianity, since Satan is a belief of Christians.

Subject: My neighboor is afraid I will rot in hell because ...
Date Posted: 9/9/2009 9:59 PM ET
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I do not believe in the devil and she believes if you don't believe everything Jesus said you will end up in hell.

Date Posted: 9/10/2009 1:53 AM ET
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Tell her that that's just fine with you, lol.

Date Posted: 9/10/2009 9:31 PM ET
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Really, if all the people raving about going to heaven and hell are actually going to be in heaven - um, no thanks, I'll pass.  The thought of spending eternity with these people makes my blood run cold.

Date Posted: 9/10/2009 10:16 PM ET
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After many long lectures about the devil and going to hell and all that jazz I told a girl "I've been there. Daddy sent me here to do his bidding." She never spoke to me again.

Date Posted: 9/17/2009 3:05 PM ET
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The closest I have ever coming to doing that was during college when a few of us were walking across campus to pick up some pizza's and were accosted by a group from Campus Crusade for Christ trying to get us to goto the bible study meeting.  I got them to bug out by asking them "Do you want to come to our death cult meeting?  We need a virgin sacrifice!".  They took off rather quickly at that one, we laughed and got our pizzas...

 

Kevin

Date Posted: 10/7/2009 5:26 PM ET
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Well the bible thumpers the come to my door skeedaddle pretty quickly when I mention that I am rendering fat for flying potion.  <snicker>  (Think of the bad B 80's movie Warlock)

Date Posted: 1/1/2010 6:57 PM ET
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I claimed to be a satanist when approached by a door to door missionary. He didn't seem to believe me until we got into a discussion between christian heretics and satanists and the misconceptions. It was funny but the baptist in-laws didn't find it amusing when they got home. (we were staying w/ them while visiting out west).

Date Posted: 1/6/2010 5:33 PM ET
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90% of people don't understand Satanism (LaVeyan). They think it has to do with worshiping satan, sacrificing animals, rape, and murder. All of which are false. I am drawn to the religion because out of all the things I have looked it, Satanism is closest to my values. I don't really see it as a religion though, more like a  set of thoughts. I'm still debating on whether or not to claim it as my religion, or if I should remain an atheist. 

Other religions don't make sense to me. Why would I want to repress what I want? I don't see anything wrong with being mean to someone who is mean to me. I want to do what makes me feel happy, and satisfies me without being told it's wrong. Of course I try not to break the law, I would never murder someone, or commit robbery because of the consequences. I'm talking about little things, like sex before marriage, the 7 "deadly" sins, and other things most commonly associated with religion.  I looked at wicca and similar earth-based religions. Karma? If I do something bad, it WON'T come back to me three times as bad. I've done a lot of "bad" things in my life, and I have never "gotten my commupance [sp]". The worst thing I can imagine happening is if I smack someone, they smack me back. That isn't karma, that's getting revenge. There's a difference.

But back to the topic. People (mainly angsty teenagers) who claim to be Satanists, and scream about worshiping the devil, they make actual Satanists look bad. They piss me off.

Date Posted: 1/14/2010 12:34 PM ET
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So what is an actual Satanist, Katlynava?

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Date Posted: 1/16/2010 11:04 PM ET
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Nora, take a look at http://churchofsatan.com/  COS has very detailed principles and ideology.  Nothing like what pizzed off teenagers do, what I  call devil worshiping,  to tick off their authority figures.

Subject: Good grief
Date Posted: 1/17/2010 3:07 PM ET
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Good grief..

Date Posted: 3/29/2010 10:10 PM ET
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The problem is most spouting Iam Satanist's have read only early Anton Lavey,He was a carnival organist before becoming Soup De Jour for the satanist.He seemed to hate his own silly imagery and black clothes later in life and realized he had created another religion How awful all free thinking out the window.thats the opposit effect I believe a true santanist would want.

Date Posted: 3/31/2010 2:00 AM ET
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I really don't like the fact that it's considered a religion, which is why I'm hesitant to label myself as part of it. Though it fits me more closely than any so-called religion out there...

Date Posted: 4/8/2010 12:01 AM ET
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Thats what I mean I think Lavey turned Satanism into a religion and regretted it afterwards because true satanism is the belief of no religion it is Free thinkingand amassing knowlede. There is no answer only knowledge and all religions are evil because they want complacint sheep to follow there preaching and never ask questions.hopefully I explained it better this time.

Date Posted: 8/4/2010 11:35 PM ET
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I only claimed that once, and I felt justified. I was in college, it was finals week. I'd been up all night working on a paper and studying for tests and had finally gone to bed at 3 a.m.m or so. At 6:30 a.m. my doorbell rang, waking me up (my earliest final was at 1, the alarm was set for 10). I get up, and stumbled to the door and what do I see...two men dressed in white shirts, black slacks and black ties...the neighborhood Jehovah's Witness missionaries. I growled at them that I wasn't interested, I was considering Satanism and slammed the door, then went back to bed. The entire time I lived at that house, they never came to my house again. In fact, I was out mowing the yard one day and saw them...they crossed to the other side of the road when they came near my house, then crossed back after passing my house.Oh, and I will admit that I know nothing about satanism...I don't believe in satan, so therefore can't be a satanist. I also didn't try to argue for or against it, just claimed I was considering it to scare them...which it accomplished, it was the only thing I could think of in my rather addled state.



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