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Subject: Plastic wrap works!
Date Posted: 9/27/2011 10:38 AM ET
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Not really a question, just wanted to comment.  It has been raining here a LOT lately, and I recently received two books (separate orders) whose outer paper wrapping had gotten wet, probably while in my mailbox.  One had an inner plastic wrap, one did not.  The one with the plastic layer was in perfect condition; the one without was rendered unpostable due to water damage.  I could tell it had been in excellent/like-new condition when mailed. 

I always wrap books I'm sending in plastic, and most of the books I receive are likewise.  Proof positive now, plastic wrap works!

Date Posted: 9/27/2011 10:44 AM ET
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Yes it works but, unless you have an RC asking for plastic wrap, they are not required to wrap it. And it is a debate that has gone back and forth forever, with some members saying that it should be required and others saying it shouldn't be, but the bottom line at the moment is that it's not required.

Personally, I plastic wrap all my books and I have not recieved a book that the rain made unpostable. If you know your area is coming into a rainy season, perhaps you should post an RC asking for plastic wrap until your rainy season passes.

Date Posted: 9/27/2011 12:25 PM ET
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I won't do RC's because many members won't send the book if you have an RC, and it's not really that big a deal to me....I didn't even ask for the credit back on the ruined book.   I do occasionally pm a member sending me a book, asking them politely if they would please wrap in plastic due to heavy rains in my area.  I don't think wrapping in plastic needs to be 'required,' but encouraging members to implement this reasonbly simple procedure, and letting them know it can pay off is a good thing.  After all, some members WOULD ask for their credit back in similar circumstances, and then you have a potential 'situation' on your hands.

Date Posted: 9/27/2011 1:21 PM ET
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I always wrap my books in plastic before mailing them out since I don't have any idea what conditions the book will be exposed to.  I receive many a book with plastic wrapping and I always thank the person for their considerate wrapping in my comments to them.

Date Posted: 9/27/2011 4:57 PM ET
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I didn't even ask for the credit back on the ruined book.

As you shouldn't. Since plastic wrap is not a requirement, and nobody can control the weather or where your mail carrier leaves your packages, I'd say it'd be RWAPed as "damaged by post office." That would put you back at the top of the list for the next copy of the book without placing any blame on the sender.

As long as the book was packaged properly according to the site's guidelines, the sender can't be held responsible for what happens to it in transit.



Last Edited on: 9/27/11 4:58 PM ET - Total times edited: 2
Date Posted: 9/27/2011 5:29 PM ET
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I didn't hold her responsible, and the replacement book is on the way.  I did report it as "damaged by the post office."  However, according to club rules, I am "allowed" to ask for the credit back (...not guaranteed to get it, of course). 

Didn't mean to start a controversy of 'who to blame', just wanted to highlight how useful the plastic wrap is.  I think most of us are unselfish enough to want the books we send to get the to requester in good condition, and plastic surely does help.

Date Posted: 9/27/2011 5:45 PM ET
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Sorry Jayelsee. I didn't intend to come across as accusatory there. 

Date Posted: 9/27/2011 6:03 PM ET
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You know those plastic air bags that many catalog stores are now using for shipping?  Most of them are big enough that if you cut off one end, a book can easily fit inside them.  So be green and reuse the air bags.  And they cost you nothing.



Last Edited on: 9/28/11 5:34 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 9/27/2011 6:17 PM ET
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I also plastic wrap every book, unless it is going in a plastic bubble mailer. I find that it also helps to wrap the book better because you can tape onto the plastic. Most of the time I use the newspaper plastic sleeves, old shopping bags, or plasic bags things come in when ordered online. There is no need to purchase plastic wrap. It is a cheap and easy procedure that saves you and the reciever in the long run



Last Edited on: 9/27/11 6:18 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 9/27/2011 7:28 PM ET
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"I use the newspaper plastic sleeves, old shopping bags, or plasic bags things come in when ordered online. There is no need to purchase plastic wrap."  Me, too, javagerty--I use all those items myself, have even used the plastic they wrap around paper towels, toilet paper etc.  I am totally a "green" shipper, the only new shipping materials I ever use are packing tape and printer paper (and sometimes, I can reuse paper that's printed only on one side).  Recylcing plastic makes me feel a bit better, too, at least it gets a second use before adding to the landfill.  If I need a box or something sturdier to protect books, I make my own out of shipping boxes I've received, or even soda, beer or cereal boxes & the like. 



Last Edited on: 9/27/11 7:29 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 9/27/2011 9:36 PM ET
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i received a book yesterday that was wrapped in a heavy plastic as the only wrapping. the book edge had a 2 inch gash i think from the shipping. (the plastic had a gash, not the book)

so, i almost always go with a double wrapping.

Date Posted: 9/27/2011 9:51 PM ET
Member Since: 9/6/2011
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I did not think it was necessary at first, but I did send 2 books to someone and one got wet so I returned the credit to them. I will be wrapping in plastic from now on. Glad to know it works well.

Date Posted: 9/28/2011 2:47 PM ET
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How I wish that the wishlisted paperback I received today had had an inner wrapping of plastic.  The thin, single sheet of paper in which it was wrapped -- with very little tape -- was wet and torn completely open at one end and that exposed end has dark stains on it.  One thin sheet of paper with almost no tape is poor protection for a book even when it is not raining.

I will mark the book received in good condition even though I think the sender did an inadequate job of wrapping the book

I also mail all my books including audio books with an inner wrapping of plastic, usually the plastic bags in which my daily paper is delivered.

Should I tell the sender of this book (gently, of course) in the space provided for a message when I mark the book received that perhaps she should wrap books in more than a single sheet and to use more tape?

 

Date Posted: 9/28/2011 3:26 PM ET
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If you haven't already marked it received in"good" condition, I think you should mark it "received with a problem" due to USPS.  You will also then have to put the reason it was RWAP, a copy of which will be sent to her.  She will not lose her credit, but she will understand what happened.

If you've already marked it received as 'good'....I would probably send a nice pm thanking her for the book and letting her know that unfortunately etc.  Maybe assuring her you don't want your credit back, but just wanted to let her know how useful that extra layer of plastic (and tape!) can be.



Last Edited on: 9/28/11 3:27 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 9/28/2011 4:25 PM ET
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Thank you, jayelsee.  I'll mark it RWAP due to USPS and then explain in the pm about the thin, one-page, barely taped wrapper. 

Date Posted: 9/28/2011 7:16 PM ET
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Maybe she'll even be conscientious and give you your credit back :), even tho' you're not asking for it.

Date Posted: 9/28/2011 7:45 PM ET
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PBS is so conscientious about the condition criteria for book swapping that I'm surprised they support mailing books in printer paper. 

Date Posted: 9/28/2011 7:50 PM ET
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90% of the books (a guesstimate) I receive are wrapped in printer paper.  It works well if wrapped correctly and with the right amount of tape.  I've only had a few books damaged in the mail and two of those were in the Tevek type plastic envelopes.  Holes were punched in the envelope because the book was loose in it and that allowed water in.  Those envelopes do not tear but the machines seem to love to punch holes unless they are taped tightly around the book.

Give me printer paper any day over a book loose in any type of envelope.