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Subject: plastic wrapping found new source
Date Posted: 6/17/2009 10:26 AM ET
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I just wanted to share this. I know that many others have found ways to wrap books in plastic that are easy for them. I just found one that I thought I would share.

I mail my books from work, so it's a pain to remember to bring bags with me, I tried taking in a roll of plastic wrap and it didn't fit in my desk (I have work stuff there!) and sometimes I would just forget about wrapping in plastic because it was such a pain. I need a small, clean source of plastic bags.

And then, there they were. For free from my village office. In a little container that takes up almost no space on my desk. What am I talking about? Dog poop bags. My village gives them away in little containers. I know they are intended for me to scoop poop but I don't have a dog. My tax dollars paid for them so I doubt they will mind if I take the occasional package. I think there are 100 bags in there and that will last a long time. They are brand new and clean and just the right size.

susan/vt

Date Posted: 6/17/2009 10:28 AM ET
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That's very observant of you, Susan.   Creative thinking is where it's at as far as I'm concerned!  I love getting new ideas and tips like this.

Ruth

Date Posted: 6/17/2009 10:44 AM ET
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I'm glad this works for you but I'd rather the bags were left in place for people to clean up after their dogs. JMO.

Date Posted: 6/17/2009 11:52 AM ET
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There were about 20 little plastic cases of bags on the table. There are there everytime I go to the village office so I expect there will still be plenty for the dog owners to grab. It's not like I took the last one or grabbed one by the hydrant or something.

susan/vt

Date Posted: 6/17/2009 1:06 PM ET
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At least the doggy poo is biodegradable.  I think books in bags makes more sense than poop, but that's probably just me:P

Date Posted: 6/17/2009 1:50 PM ET
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sometimes the bags for cleaning up dog droppings are biodegradable so this(if these bags are) would be a better solution then plastic wrap or grocery store plastic bags

Date Posted: 6/17/2009 2:29 PM ET
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Another fascinating PBS discussion :-)

Date Posted: 6/17/2009 3:47 PM ET
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I am wondering if the use of this resouce  for anything other than dog crap is ethical.

No big deal if one person pilfers a box of bags, right? What's a little box o bags, b'sides, they'll last a loooong time.

What if everyone on PBS reads this and runs to their nearest village office or in my case community dog park, grabbed a box of plastic bags and started wrapping their books in this "free resource"?

Do you want your taxes to go up to cover the increase cost of "free"  dog fec bags or do you want your poop landmines to increase because they stopped giving out boxes because people were abusing the privilege? 

Just my thoughts. 

<Zipping up my flame retardant suit.>

 



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Date Posted: 6/17/2009 3:55 PM ET
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Petsmart has biodegradable dog clean-up bags that are $10 for a box of 100.  They are 10" x 10".  The bags have been given a five-star rating by users.  I have never thought of using these bags but I think I will because this seems to be a good value for the bags and they are biodegradable.

Date Posted: 6/17/2009 4:27 PM ET
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Do they say "Poop" on them?  I would hate for someone to take it as a review of the enclosed book.....

:giggle:

Date Posted: 6/17/2009 4:36 PM ET
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When I plastic wrap books I've found that the three large rolls of plastic stretch wrap we have left over from our move last year works wonderfully.  I have one roll that's 36", and recently used it to wrap a set of antique railroad engineering manuals in, prior to packing them in a shipping box with foam peanuts.

I don't plastic wrap often, since I use waterproof mailers to start with, but if I have to send out items in boxes I do wrap them and this is working great for me.

I have to say though, if I got a book wrapped in a doggy poop bag I'd be hesitant to even unwrap it...

 



Last Edited on: 6/17/09 4:37 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 6/17/2009 4:44 PM ET
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Laura,

I agree with you. I have 3 dogs and I always try to take my own bags with me ... but sometimes one of my dogs will go twice on a walk, or I run out of bags that morning or whatever ... and for those occasions, my neighborhood association has those doggie bags mounted on posts for free, with the idea that you use them as you need them.

They refill them on a schedule. If everybody grabs extra bags on Monday, then the posts sit empty until Friday.

i would hate to see people go out and grab a bunch of those bags for non-dog related activities. I do my best to keep my neighborhood, my neighbor's lawns, and my neighborhood parks clean with my own resources and the amenities the association has chosen to provide, but honestly, if those neighborhood bags disappeared (either because people were grabbing them for their own uses, or because the association decides that they are too expensive to replace because people are grabbing them for other uses), there would have to be times where I just leave the mess instead of picking it up. I would never set out to do that on purpose, but you know, sometimes you can't help it.

Sometimes I will even go grab the bags to pick up someone else's dog poop. Because I want the neighborhood to stay clean.

It would be a real shame if those bags ceased to be available, for whatever reason.

ETA: If you take one trash bag, you can cut it up into pieces, and it will wrap multiple books. Very very cheaply. Also, saran wrap, the last one I bought was a 200 sq ft. box for $2.00 on sale; and since I use about 18 inches to wrap an average MMP, I can wrap about 130 books with one roll. At a cost below 2 cents per book. Granted, its not free, but it does come pretty close.



Last Edited on: 6/17/09 4:50 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 6/17/2009 4:46 PM ET
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Do they say "Poop" on them?  I would hate for someone to take it as a review of the enclosed book.....

Lol.  Lord, do they have that printed on them somewhere?  I'm sorry, I know I'm not taking this seriously enough & that's probably the quickest way to offend someone, but isn't most of the sensitivity over the whole doggy poopy issue due to the fact that so many people could care less about where their dogs poop, much less about bagging it?  In which case, I can't see how a few people picking up such a tremendously underused resource and putting it to some other use is a bad thing:P



Last Edited on: 6/17/09 4:48 PM ET - Total times edited: 2
Date Posted: 6/17/2009 4:54 PM ET
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I can't see how a few people picking up such a tremendously underused resource

Oh, not in my neighborhood. They usually run out a day or two before the dispensers get refilled. The parks where people walk their dogs, here, are the same ones their kids play in, so most people are pretty good about picking up. And believe me, since the bags are available, if someone doesn't pick up, they will get dirty looks and maybe even a (hopefully) polite pointer to the dispenser.

Date Posted: 6/17/2009 5:33 PM ET
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We don't get them in my neighborhood.  It's kind of a tie 'em out in the yard area.  I've seen them at the park though.

Subject: Doggie do-do bags
Date Posted: 6/17/2009 6:18 PM ET
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THe last time I went down there, our city had cardboard "scoop style" doggie  clean up.  Not real pratical...our two dogs will need more then one per walk. I buy doggie bags at Dollar tree. I bought two boxes and they should last for...quite a while.

Date Posted: 6/17/2009 8:36 PM ET
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Ok, fine. I thought I would share something with you all that might be of interest. First off, I didn't steal a bunch of bags off some pole in a neighborhood. The village office has packages of bags in a small container shaped like a fire hydrant that are there for the taking. They are in an office and not in a dog park. I have no idea why the village should pay for dog poop bags for dog owners but be upset if a tax paying non dog owner took a package of bags to use but don't worry I'll bring them back.

I already explained that even though plastic wrap works great, I don't really have room in my desk to keep it. I should remember to wrap them before I leave home but I never do.

The bags don't say poop on them. They just are small bags that are just the right size for wrapping a book. Sure didn't mean to start a war here.

susan/vt

Date Posted: 6/17/2009 9:02 PM ET
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Susan,

I wasn't trying to criticize you personally, I just didn't want a lot of people out there to suddenly "find" dog bags and take them for other stuff ... its hard enough to keep them in stock before they run out  :)

Date Posted: 6/17/2009 9:08 PM ET
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Susan, I think the forum ws just discussing the pros and cons of your suggestion relative to their own situation.  Personally, I doubt that taking one box every sooften is going to matter much.  in any event, maybe being able to buy biodegradeable plastic bags like this would be a great thing for those members who dislike having plastic in their homes.  It's a viable option.  And had you not brought it up we might never have thought of it.  So for all we know someone will go look for some of them at their pet store or wherever they are sold in their area.  Please don't take offense.  The forums really like to chew over things like this and no one meant to hurt your feelings or "war" over it.  I'm glad you metioned it because I would never have thought of it.

Ruth

Date Posted: 6/17/2009 9:09 PM ET
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Sara, that's fine. I probably shouldn't have taken it personally. I wouldn't advocate people running out and taking bags out of dog parks or off poles in the neighborhood.

So anyway, if you find a good price on the bags or somebody hands you a package, they work great. Otherwise, you should probably stick to produce bags (used, don't help yourself at the grocery store LOL) newspaper bags, plastic wrap, etc.

I can't speak for all doggie bags but the ones that I am using do not in anyway indicate for what use they might be intended.

susan/vt

Date Posted: 6/18/2009 9:58 AM ET
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Personally, I think using those bags is a great idea.  And as far as taking them, I see nothing wrong with it.  As you said, you didn't take the last one and they are always laying out and their were plenty of them. Your taxes are paying for it.  Shouldn't pet owners take bags with them to clean up after their pet?  Why are we paying for bags to clean up after their pets?  It's nice to have them around so in case of multiple bathroom times it can be cleaned up, but I also think anyone that pays for them has just as much entitlement to use them for whatever the reason.  It's like taking leftovers from a restaurant, you pay for it, you can take it. 

Date Posted: 6/18/2009 10:57 AM ET
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It's like taking leftovers from a restaurant, you pay for it, you can take it.

It's more like taking the sugar and ketchup packets. Those things are there for your use while you're dining at the restaurant, not to stuff in your purse to take home and resupply your pantry.  

Just my HO.

Date Posted: 6/18/2009 11:02 AM ET
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Your taxes are paying for it.

Yes, but taxes pay for all kinds of services that everyone in your town/city/state does not have equal access to. This is not "unfair". My taxes pay for things like maintaining handicapped parking spaces, or handicapped parking space enforcement, that I have no access to. Do I care? No.

Anyway, leaving them for dog owners is a public service, because then there is less poop for everyone to step in.

Geri (geejay) -
Date Posted: 6/18/2009 3:26 PM ET
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What a big thing out of something that Susan wanted to share.  She found the bags in the village office.  She didn't empty the container, she took one "box".  She thought she was sharing some information about the size of the bag in case anyone else is interested.

It's similar to the time I shared what I thought was a funny at the PO and got "yelled" at because the guy behind the counter sent a book and a cookie media mail.  I didn't ask for it, didn't know any better at the time and apparently neither did her.  I would have sent it first class with no problem.  I told the guy what was in the package and he said we'll send it media mail and offered me a cookie off the counter.  Man, I got ripped up one side and down the other because I was guilty of mail fraud!  I sent a cookie with a book.

Susan, that was a great suggestion, I'm going to look for the poop bags in the stores to use for my books!  I can state that my township office does not have anything like that.  There is no poop bag dispenser in the park either.  I'd have never thought of the bags myself since I don't have a dog.  

Date Posted: 6/18/2009 3:32 PM ET
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Is there a sign up that says "For Dog Owners Only"? If not go ahead, they are there for use by the village members, no reason that they are restricted to picking up dog poo, as long as you are not using all of them so there is none left for anyone else. I would personally be ticked if I was being required to buy bags for dog owners to pick up after their animals, they should be required to pay for them. Otherwise, free for one, free for all. 

eta: I also think it was a great pointer that these were biodegradable wrapping options. I would have never thought about that without the post.



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