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Subject: Please, if you have conditions...
Date Posted: 1/13/2008 1:36 AM ET
Member Since: 7/2/2005
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be short and concise... I've got this great, brand new hardback book, been read once. I keep trying to give it to someone, but it's on person #4 right now. 2 had smoking conditions, but said "smoking environment" - okay, do they mean in the house with a smoker, a smoker that has handled the book or what? My husband smokes and helps me moves my books around - his hands always smell like smoke - ick. So I declined those 2. Another had 2 paragraphs worth of stuff - most of it vague.

ARGH! It always comes in batches for me... people, please review your conditions and see if it would make sense to you if you knew nothing about yourself.

I hate conditions. I wish they'd go to a checkbox system or something or maybe we could just not accept any conditions? I dunno, something to help a girl out here.

Date Posted: 1/13/2008 3:06 AM ET
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Well I think if your hubby smokes in your house then you should not accept any book requests w/a non-smoking condition. Even if you don't smoke.  So you did the right thing by declining those. I agree that the conditions can get out of hand sometimes. I have turned down a couple because they seemed to want a perfect new book or they want to be PM'd with a description first. 

L. G. (L)
Date Posted: 1/13/2008 3:10 AM ET
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You're free to decline any and all conditions.  Don't feel bad about it. :)  If they are vague, decline them.  I have even written in the explanation box,"Your conditions are too vague and subjective." 

Date Posted: 1/13/2008 6:38 AM ET
Member Since: 12/28/2007
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from what i underrstand, you can reject conditions for any and all reasons...even if you just dont like conditions. :)


i dont do it but considered it b/c i fear that someone w/ long drawn out conditions may find something wrong with books i have but i havent had a problem yet.

Date Posted: 1/13/2008 7:48 AM ET
Member Since: 12/17/2007
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I've only been around about a month, so I'm really new at this, but when I started I had questions about the conditions and posted them here.  I was seeing about 1/3 of my requests come through with conditions and was concerned.  I smoke, although a lot of my books come from thrift stores and such and I haven't read them and I don't smoke in the room where the books are stored, I still decline all requests with smoking conditions. 

I was assured at the time that the number of conditions I had seen (at the time it was 2 out of 6 or something) was unusual.  I gotta say, I am still seeing about 1/3 of requests with conditions. 

I have seen lengthy conditions expaining to me that I needed to smell my books, instructions on packaging and even 1 where the requestor explained that most of her books were intended as gifts (nice) and she couldn't accept: {long list of conditions}. 

I've gotten to where I decline almost everything, even simple requests for dust jackets on hardcovers, 1 because now I don't know if that means the dust jacket also has to be really nice, and 2 because that is telling me the requestor wants a keeper copy and not a reading copy and is going to be pickier. With 40 or 50 people on a wishlist, there is always someone else and I've decided not to sweat it.

Date Posted: 1/13/2008 9:35 AM ET
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Mary - he doesn't smoke in the house, outside only, but the residue is still there and if someone is truly allergeric to it... ugh... anyway, just annoyed me last night because I had to wait for them to say they wanted the book, hem and haw over their condition and then click decline, then *I* have to say why - which I think is annoying. I'm not the one with the condition! LOL! Anyway, I was just in tizzy. All better this morning ;)

Date Posted: 1/13/2008 10:37 AM ET
Member Since: 5/10/2007
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I have a RC for a currently non smoking environment and I'd rather someone decline my request if they aren't sure.  I would put on there something about if it doesn't smell like smoke to send it but if the person is a smoker it may not smell to them so I'd rather be safe than sorry.

I'm currently reading a book I got from the library and one of the previous borrowers was a smoker and the book reeks.  I'm muddling through but it is hard but not much I can do since it is a library book and a new book so the WL is long!

Date Posted: 1/13/2008 10:55 AM ET
Member Since: 8/27/2005
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I send out a lot of books but rarely get orders with conditions, maybe 1 out of 20?  I wonder if people requesting books in certain genres have more conditions?   Although my bookshelves have all genres since I get a lot of books to post from thrift stores and library sales.  I always send if conditions are met, I have refused a few subjective ones but most conditions I get refer to smoke or moldy smells.

patticom - ,
Date Posted: 1/13/2008 11:03 AM ET
Member Since: 11/3/2007
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I've gotten several with conditions, but not as many as 1/3... maybe 20%?  I've never really kept count, because it's just not that big a deal to me.  :)  If they are vague, or I am really not sure my book will meet the condition, I just refuse it and tell them so.  If I *think* the book will probably meet it I'll accept but then PM them to be sure.  I understand about that messing up the FIFO for me, but I'm new and have enough credits right now so it just doesn't bother me that much.  :)-  If I meet the condition, even if it's outrageous like the person who only wanted brand new books (really), I'll send it.  The way I see it is they are only hurting themselves by being so silly about it.  If I'm in a snit at some point when a request comes in, or if it's a waitlisted book, I'd probably refuse it though just on principal. 


Date Posted: 1/13/2008 12:54 PM ET
Member Since: 5/29/2007
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Just decline.  As annoying as it is, for you, to have a book go thru multiple people, it is just as annoying to have someone ignore your conditions and send a book anyway.  It's as much of a let down, I assure you. 

For those of us that have RC's, I promise you, we have as many gripes as those of you who complain about the way they're worded. 

Date Posted: 1/15/2008 1:18 AM ET
Member Since: 12/7/2007
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I get nervous with the smoking conditions because I used to smoke, but haven't for a year and a half. And almost all of the books on my bookshelf I never actually read, so they were never truly exposed.

Of course, I smell them and they smell fine. And I don't smoke anymore like I said, so I am able to pick up on it. But I'm always so nervous with the conditions. Haven't run into a problem yet but if I ever do, I'll probably just skip all RCs.