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Subject: please keep the deals out of this group
Date Posted: 2/12/2008 4:26 PM ET
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This is a discussion group.  Please post your deals in the book bazaar. It's also fine to mention them in your signature.

From the PBS guidelines: Topics advertising your bookshelf should NOT be started in any forum but the Book Bazaar. Keeping "deals" and the like confined to the Book Bazaar not only unclutters the other forums, but also allows members who post deals to be sure that their deal is seen, and members who seek deals to find them.

Date Posted: 2/12/2008 8:31 PM ET
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I agree-- I don't like looking through lists of deals on this forum.  If I want them, I'll go to bazaar!

Date Posted: 2/12/2008 8:42 PM ET
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That might be partially my fault.  I mentioned something the other day in the book bazaar forum about people who run a lot of romance specials running signature ads & posting on this forum every once in a while so we're sure to see them.  I *thought* I said it in such a way that it was clear I meant put the ads in your signature, and just post in this forum where the romance readers read & post, and can see your deals.  I guess it wasn't all that clear, because I've noticed this happening since I said that:(

Date Posted: 2/12/2008 9:01 PM ET
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Your post was clear to me Kim. We go through this periodically seems like. At least now more threads fit here; before we would lost a thread at the end every time we had a new thread started and one time I remember half the first page being deals!

I like seeing the deals in the siggy lines and I've ordered a lot from you guys here, esp when a deal is in the siggy..

Date Posted: 2/12/2008 9:26 PM ET
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bump up

I wish people wouldn't come here to just post deal and never join in the discussion.  I find that very annoying.

Date Posted: 2/12/2008 11:31 PM ET
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Yeah Kim, this is a periodic thing. I figured we needed a new shout out, since the old one disappeared.

Date Posted: 2/13/2008 9:23 AM ET
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bumping (and bumping the deals away :D)

Date Posted: 2/13/2008 7:19 PM ET
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I don't post a lot but I do lurk. I enjoy reading every-ones comments on different books and if I am looking for a book I check members shelves here first because I know I will get the book request accepted fast.

I usually skip any posts regarding deals [unless sigs] if I am just looking for deals I go to the bazaar.

Date Posted: 2/13/2008 8:29 PM ET
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Welcome Diane!

I do the same.  In fact, I will not order from anyone who posts separate deal posts in this forum.

Date Posted: 2/13/2008 8:41 PM ET
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I don't think anyone posting the deals here could have been doing any reading, or surely they'd have seen this thread and figured it out.  Which is sort of annoying in its own way, really.  I presume the person who "suggested they post the deals here" was me, but that's really not what I said.  Under the circumstances, I suppose I should have said something on that particular thread, but I was hoping they would stop bumping and let it drop off the first page, & I didn't want to bump it by posting on it either.  I agree, my first instinct is to  NOT order anything from deals posted on this forum.  Keeping the effort  of posting deals in this forum totally futile is probably the best way the rest of us have of discouraging it.

Date Posted: 2/13/2008 10:27 PM ET
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Date Posted: 2/13/2008 10:33 PM ET
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Marla, you asked a question about the best ways to offer deals, and then participated in a discussion with several members on the subject.  As far as I'm concerned, you have nothing to apologize for.  Bumping is just posting something - anything - on an existing thread to keep it at the top of the list of posts and/or more visible.

Date Posted: 2/14/2008 12:20 AM ET
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I have posted deals on here twice I think. I am relatively new to PBS. And at first I posted here because I did not know of Book Bazaar and someone here told me about it.  I had someone comment me on it that it was a 'good idea' and I reposted it a while back.  I never seen anything about no deals being posted in here.  And I haven't really "read" the rules of this site...And as for the joining in the discussion..I am not a romance reader.  I recieved over 200 books from a friend and since my books pertain to this discussion forum I thought it would be a good idea to post that deal here.  But you all seem to be offended over it, you could have worded it better is all. 



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Date Posted: 2/14/2008 7:59 AM ET
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I'm wondering if we can post a message on our board description that alerts new participants that this board is "not for deals" -- which are to be posted exclusively in the bazaar?   Maybe some people aren't aware?

Date Posted: 2/14/2008 8:09 AM ET
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I'd ask somebody with administrative access to put up a sticky thread - as a courtesy, so that everyone who actually reads romances and uses this forum doesn't have to remind others what the rules are, or be accused of being rude when they do so.  The policy is in the Help Docs under the PBS Community section & Discussion Forum use policies.  http://www.paperbackswap.com/help/help_index.php

We ask that members give thought to the appropriateness of their topic for the forum in which they post. It works best for everyone if questions are posted in Questions About PaperBackSwap, USPS issues are posted in USPS Postal Regulations, games are confined to Games, etc. Topics advertising your bookshelf should NOT be started in any forum but the Book Bazaar. Keeping "deals" and the like confined to the Book Bazaar not only unclutters the other forums, but also allows members who post deals to be sure that their deal is seen, and members who seek deals to find them. We have created enough forums to allow a place for anything our members might like to discuss.

Date Posted: 2/14/2008 8:48 AM ET
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Date Posted: 2/14/2008 7:13 PM ET
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Marla, I don't think you have anything to apologize for either.  Asking for help getting your shelf moving and then disucssing that with other people isn't offering deals.

I just sent a message to R&R asking if we could get a thread stickied to the top of the board just for deals, hopefully that'll help with all the separate posts cluttering up the forum.

Date Posted: 2/14/2008 7:46 PM ET
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Good thinking, Sarah.  I'm glad you did that.  I know this is going to sound stupid, but I really didn't notice this until just recently - are there no forum moderators?

Date Posted: 2/14/2008 9:39 PM ET
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I don't know if there are or not, I also asked that in my message to R&R.  I know the USPS Regulations forum has 2 moderators now and there are lots of moderators in the Games forum.  I'm not sure if any of the other forums have them.

I'll post back when I hear from them.

Date Posted: 2/14/2008 10:58 PM ET
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Well, I will admit I was one who obviously misread rubberducky's intentions.  I have stopped bumping my deal and it was originally posted in the Bazaar to begin with.  We all make mistakes.

I would like to suggest that if you find someone posting something against the rules, you send them a nice PM letting them know.  Posting a reply to an "illegal" thread not only bumps it back up to the top, but could make the person feel embarrassed and therefore you are alienating them from perhaps joining in the discussion. 

Just a suggestion.

 

Date Posted: 2/14/2008 11:33 PM ET
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Nanette, I am truly sorry if I was unclear in what I was saying.  I'm also sorry coming to this forum turned into a bit of a negative experience for you.  My big goof was in assuming that everyone who has a lot of romance novels on their shelves were romance readers themselves.  I don't know why I assumed that - I have a lot of things on my shelf I don't or won't read.  When you fiddle around with buying and trading a lot of books, friends & family tend to pass a lot of things along to you just to get it out of their way.  I know that, I just don't usually take much of anything that's not romance, because that's the genre I mostly read.  What I had intended to suggest in the post you read was to encourage those of you running the romance specials to put them in your signature files, and do some posting over here on this forum - participate in some of the discussions, because this is the place many of the people reading those books tend to post & read.  I already knew about the posting guidelines, but haven't really been posting long enough myself to be aware that deal posting in inappropriate forums has been a problem in the past.  As with anything that has been an ongoing problem, the people who have been seeing it & dealing with it the longest - the regular posters, if you will - are going to have a low tolerance level for it when they see it the next time.  What happened here, was really a combination of a lot of little things, but I don't think anyone truly meant any harm.  I hope that you and anyone else who was offended by the things said here will take that into consideration, and try not to take it too personally.  I understand that's inevitable to some extent, but the regulars here just love this forum & want to see it remain a nice & enjoyable place to discuss one of their passions with others who share it.  When it's all said & done, that's what's behind any comments they've made on the subject.



Last Edited on: 2/14/08 11:36 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 2/14/2008 11:42 PM ET
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Kim,

I'm not really upset and there is no need to apologize. 

I just don't tend to come in the forums much because I have so many books to read, I feel like I'm drowning sometimes...lol.   I may continue to come back to this forum to read, but not sure if I'll have a lot of time to contribute.

While I understand letting people know about the rules, it can be done in a way that doesn't embarass anyone.  Typed messages can come across in a totally different way than what was intend as well, since the person may not know the author's personality and they certainly can't hear any inflection .  I have previously posted in other forums and this can cause misunderstandings and bad feelings sometimes.  That was all I meant by my reply.  You can't help it if I misread your intentions.

Thank you for your response.

 

Nanette

BTW, I DO read romance almost exclusively ;-)



Last Edited on: 2/15/08 12:05 AM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 2/14/2008 11:53 PM ET
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Well, let me tell you - that drowning sensation I know so well...  That's the big thing that got me hooked on this forum.  This is the first time I can recall running across so many women who shared my addiction:P  I love it.  I don't have to skulk through the romance isle at Border's anymore, and pretend I'm just lost and looking for the non-fiction section.  A support group at last!  And I totally understand your POV.  I'd feel much the same in your shoes.  Comments can even be very gentle, but if there are a lot of them, it still has the same result as one or two rude ones.

Date Posted: 2/15/2008 2:34 AM ET
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I dunno, as a support group we may be kind of like those anorexic women who encourage each other to eat less. ;-)  Though I have been making more of an effort to cut down on books since we've been talking about it, at that.

Date Posted: 2/15/2008 2:55 PM ET
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This is a bit of a bizarre support group.  Everytime I come into this forum, I wind up getting more books :\

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