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Subject: Is it possible to avoid requests being sent to a certain person?
Date Posted: 8/29/2009 12:48 AM ET
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 Is there a way to block a person from receiving future book requests from me?

Date Posted: 8/29/2009 12:49 AM ET
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no. I've heard of people keeping manual lists and seeing who the requestor is then deciding to send or not to send, but that is really over the top IMHO. Even if you had one bad experience with a person, I doubt they would be "that way" for all their transactions, so you might have successful transactions with them in the future.

You would have to decline to send the book, then it would be taken off your shelf. You'd have to manually relist the book, so your book would be last in the FIFO system.



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Date Posted: 8/29/2009 12:50 AM ET
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I don't think so.  Someone may jump in and correct me, but I don't think you can stop the request from going to someone if they are at the top of the FIFO line.

Date Posted: 8/29/2009 12:52 AM ET
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 Thanks for the answers.

Date Posted: 8/29/2009 12:54 AM ET
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If there is someone in particular that you no longer want to order from, you can click on "order more from member" and see whose shelf you're ordering from at that very moment and then cancel the order if it's the someone in particular.  Though there is no sure way to know when the book will get ordered from them in order to get someone else to the top of the FIFO list.

Date Posted: 8/29/2009 1:23 AM ET
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 Thank you Purvi, what a great answer!  This person has been unpleasant and I would prefer to have no future dealings with them. I will definitely use your suggestion.

Date Posted: 8/29/2009 2:22 AM ET
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There isn't a way to skip them if they are next in FIFO.  You can put the book in your reminder list and watch the numbers.  You can post in the genre forums that you are looking for a specific book.  Some forums have an thread such as "Is this on your bookshelf?".  There is also the option to go to bookshelves of other members and run a search for a title or author. 

I'll click on the PM button then click on their name for the profile.  (I have a smoking RC and would rather not order more from someone who will need to turn down my RC.)

Date Posted: 8/29/2009 10:03 AM ET
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You'd have to check every time you order a book to make sure you're not ordering from that person.  The only way to skip them in FIFO for a book you want is to try posting in the Book Bazaar what book you're looking for and asking people to PM you if they have it on their shelf so you can order it directly from them.

Or,  you can search the shelves of people that have Box of Books memberships.  Then order directly from them.  I've done that a time or two when I have a request sitting there unaccepted in FIFO.

Date Posted: 8/29/2009 10:43 AM ET
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Date Posted: 8/29/2009 2:28 PM ET
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Rana, What great tips!  I have never needed to use those suggestions, but good to know the option is there. 

Date Posted: 8/29/2009 4:05 PM ET
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How do you see the list of the next person in line? Luckily, I've never had the need to avoid a member, but I didn't know you could see such a list.

Date Posted: 8/29/2009 5:32 PM ET
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there is no way that I know of to see who has the book next in the FIFO line, at least not on PBS.

Date Posted: 8/29/2009 5:55 PM ET
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The only way that I can think of is to place a second order for the same book.

Date Posted: 8/29/2009 5:55 PM ET
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Date Posted: 8/29/2009 6:48 PM ET
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Keep in mind that since PBS is based on FIFO, Rana's suggestion only works for books that are currently in the system that you are ordering....if you cancel an order FROM someone once you realize it's someone you don't want to deal with, the book you're cancelling the order for is removed from your bookshelf and you would be at the end of the FIFO queue again when you respost it.

And if you have a book wishlisted and the person you don't want to order from is the one posting the book and you cancel the order, the book is removed from your wishlist and then you go to the back of the line if you re-wishlist it. And if you are posting a wishlisted book and that person orders from you and you cancel, your book is removed from your shelf--if you repost it again, it will go right back to that person again since they are #1 in line, until someone else has posted the book and granted their wish when you could post it for the next person--but how do you know when that happens except by repeatedly posting it and cancelling if it's still that person.  

Unless of course you can find someone else with the book on their wishlist and post it directly to them--or if you can find someone who has a book on your wishlist that could post directly to you....but truly, it just seems like a lot of rigamarole and quite time-consuming. I've encountered only a couple of rude folks over four years here, and a minor incident like that wasn't enough to have me devoting time to trying to avoid further orders from or to them. FIFO works great, IMO.

Cheryl

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Date Posted: 8/29/2009 7:17 PM ET
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Date Posted: 8/29/2009 7:53 PM ET
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Rana -- how many times have you been asked to return a credit? I've gotta say I really don't think there are a whole bunch of members damaging incoming books and then asking to get their credits back. In my 420 outbound transactions, only 1 has been marked "received with a problem, damaged by USPS", none have ever been marked "damaged by sender". I'm definitely not sending perfect books, I just send books that meet the guidelines.

The reason people in the forums usually take the requestor's side is because the requestor is usually the one coming here and posting. People always jump on the first bandwagon they see. When a sender does come here and say she's been unjustly accused of sending a bad book, people take that side too.

If you have the time and energy to deal with video and photos and it gives you some peace of mind, that's fine, but I hope a new member would know that the odds she'll ever need to use such evidence is extremely low.

Date Posted: 8/29/2009 8:11 PM ET
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I agree...I've never had any books I mailed marked RWAP except one where I sent it with insufficient postage.  I think the people who lie about RWAP are few & far between. 



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Date Posted: 8/29/2009 8:29 PM ET
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Rana - you also have to realize that a very, VERY small percentage of the people using PBS even use the forums. The threads in this forum tend on the negative side cuz people are venting but the actual number of problem transactions on this site as a whole are relatively small. I've had a small handful out of all the books I've swapped ... nearly 1,800.

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Date Posted: 8/29/2009 9:23 PM ET
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Date Posted: 8/29/2009 9:23 PM ET
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I'm still confused about how you are going to see who has the next book in the FIFO line...can you actually order a second book BEFORE the first sender has mailed you your book?

After listening to you on this thread I'm not sure I'd be comfortable sending you a book....the things you are suggesting sound rather devious and underhanded.  Not comfortable with it at all and I would bet if I were a betting person that TPTB would not be happy with the suggestions or circumventing the system like that.

 

Date Posted: 8/29/2009 9:28 PM ET
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Date Posted: 8/29/2009 9:30 PM ET
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Rana wrote: Where did I learn to be so paranoid?

I'm glad you addressed that, as I was wondering....I really hope new people don't think it's necessary to follow those steps...I mean, come on! Videoing yourself wrapping books and keeping the file until the transaction is complete? Er....PBS is supposed to be fun. That doesn't sound like fun to me.

I mean, I've been here four years and received 1,338 books (and sent out more than that!) and the number of RWAPs is very small, less than a dozen--and all were resolved satisfactorily. I can't even imagine circumstances under which I would video myself wrapping up a book before sending it...but certainly, as Cathy said, Rana, if you really want to spend your time that way, it's totally up to you! Me, I'd rather spend it reading. :)

Cheryl

Date Posted: 8/29/2009 10:12 PM ET
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I have only had one RWAP - which I marked - but didn't ask for the credit.  I have been a member since mid-May and I know I will encounter a RWAP at some point in my membership.

I know I inspect my books before sending so as far as I am concerned I have met the PBS postability standards when mailed. If I encounter RWAP as a sender I will work with the requestor to resolve.  I am only human and I can miss a stain or tear - even if I look carefully.  I don't think that there are that many evil people that would take that type of advantage.  PBS tracks RWAPs on both sides,so if someone repeats that method of deceit often it would be flagged - I would hope.

I will try to order from buddies or members that post on forums because I do know they are around and the request will not sit there, but I do order from FIFO.  I don't think there is anyone on the site that I wouldn't order from, a book is a book. Just because there is one trouble order doesn't mean there will be more and the chances of ordering from the same person is slim when using FIFO - unless it is a genre with a small base of members.

With that said, everyone has to do what makes them comfortable, I am sorry you have had such experiences that it has made you feel that video taping and taking pictures is necessary. 

 

Date Posted: 8/29/2009 11:15 PM ET
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I've been here 2+ years.  I've never had anything I send out marked RWAP or had any communication with someone unhappy about the condition of the book I sent them.

I have had to mark a couple of incoming books RWAP.  One I requested my credit back, the other I did not.  The requested credit was promply returned with an apology, the second RWAP the sender returned my credit even though I didn't ask for it.  They weren't very pleasant but I figured that's because they knew they were completely wrong and didn't like being called on it.  That's the only even mildly unpleasant person I've dealt with and now I don't even remember who the heck they were.  The experience was not enough that it even made an impression on me to want to try and avoid them in the future.

I think videotaping yourself wrapping the book is a bit excessive but to each their own.

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