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Subject: Don't post a book to your shelf if you don't actually have it.
Date Posted: 10/9/2009 12:32 PM ET
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This is how problems get started.  Someone posted a WL book, and I was first in line.  I had the book set to AR, so they got an instant acceptance from me.  Hours later they cancel saying they can't find the book.  Why post it if you don't have it in your hands?  How do you answer the question that the isbn matches if you aren't looking at the isbn?  Had the book arrived, and the isbn been different, of course I would have had to take the appropriate *check in* course, ask for my credit back, which, more than likely would have led to hurt feelings because it's been my experience that those who don't care enough to read the rules, get an attitude when you want a credit back.  Perhaps your experience has been different, just sharing my general majority experience. 

Please folks, just a gentle reminder, many problems will be avoided if you have the book in your hand when you're adding it to your shelf for trade.

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Date Posted: 10/9/2009 1:24 PM ET
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It's possible that they had their shelf on hold for a while and unheld it without noticing that one of their books went WL in the meantime. This happened to me three times when I had my shelf on hold for an extended time. I unheld it to post a WL book only to find later when I came on that I had another book also on WL hold. 

Date Posted: 10/9/2009 2:55 PM ET
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It's possible they posted it then moved it to a "Sensible and Very Safe Place" and then promptly forgot there that Safe Place was.

Date Posted: 10/9/2009 3:10 PM ET
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I've posted a book before (it was actually in my hand when I posted it) and then couldn't find it when it got ordered weeks later.  I have all my PBS books in our hallway nook, and someone must have thought it looked like an interesting book and picked it up and put it elsewhere.  I found it a couple of months later and listed it again.  It was on the person's WL so they did get their book. 

I've posted other books and then lost them, but found them before it timed out!  It happens!  I try to only have them in one place (hallway) but I have forgotten and left them near my computer on a pile of keeper books.

Life happens!  It may be frustrating but who knows what's going on in the sender's life that sidetracks them?

Date Posted: 10/9/2009 3:21 PM ET
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Date Posted: 10/9/2009 3:54 PM ET
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The Auto Request & instant acceptance makes this one a little unusual.  Otherwise, l'll agree that life happens. 

I recently posted a handful of books, and since they were all wishlisted merely left them beside the computer until they were accepted and mailed.  One took several days to be accepted...and I still haven't found the book!  That was several weeks ago, and I had to cancel when the book didn't turn up . . . poor member probably thought I was a total flake lol.  But it was just here, really!!!

The other book I couldn't find turned up in the linen closet three months later



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Date Posted: 10/9/2009 4:13 PM ET
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Julie, sometimes it is out of a person control.   I just had a book requested and I went bopping downstairs all happy to the bookshelf (where I keep my posted books) and it wasn't there.  Hmmm I said, and went on a hunt to make sure it wasn't misplaced.  Turns out my niece who was visiting a while back asked to borrow some books.  I told her that the ones in my bedroom and library and buckets can be borrowed and the ones in the sun room on the shelf are off limits.  If she wanted one in the sun room she had to tell me and I would have removed it from the bookshelf and then she could take the book.  Well, no, she didn't tell me, she took it.  I called to ask if she took any books from the sun room and when she said yes...SMACK....then she informed me that she couldn't remember where she left it.... DOUBLE SMACK.   Yes I was embarrassed and I even went to the local UBS to see if they had the book because it is not available new.  If it were I would have ordered it and had it sent directly to the requester.   It was out of my control.  What I have learned....she is being patted down every time she leaves my house or I am putting thief devices on all the books.  I explained to the requester and she understood, because she has done the same.  One other time (this is why I now remove books from the bookshelf before it leaves the house)  a requested not WL, it was me and I gave it to sister and totally forgot!

So though I agree that members should make sure that the books posted are available to send, sometimes life happens that is out of your control. 

Sometimes I think the cat hides them, just to annoy me. I swear I'm not the one who walks around all the rooms in our house with books in hand, and leaves them in strange places. Not me! Lol

Cindy - too funny - I could see this happening.

Date Posted: 10/9/2009 5:42 PM ET
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<<How do you answer the question that the isbn matches if you aren't looking at the isbn? >>

 

If someone has checked the book when it was received from here and the ISBN matched then, the person can post the book from his or her TBR pile. I don't recheck the ISBN when I post because it's already been checked when I've received it.

Date Posted: 10/9/2009 6:21 PM ET
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I offered a deal in the BB once. This was before I learned to keep my posted books seperate. I could not find one of the books order.  I had accepted the request immediately.  I looked all over-under couch cushions, moved furniture, scoured my book shelves.  I mean I looked at ever single title, not just skimming over it.  Well guess where I found the books some weeks later-on the bookshelf.  Placed alphabetically no less.  I still think the little house elves hit it from me just to torment me.

Date Posted: 10/9/2009 7:22 PM ET
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She just joined.  My guess is she remembered the title, searched for it, found it, added it to her bookshelf, not understanding it was on a WL, then couldn't find it.  I suppose it's possible she had it in her hands, and in the short few hours between posting it, receiving an instant message it was on a WL, and declining my request, she could have lost it, but I doubt it. 



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Date Posted: 10/9/2009 7:31 PM ET
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Julie, I think being a new member explains a lot.  I bet she didn't realize it was a WL book, didn't read it and panicked when it was requested.  Or maybe she posted it by accident...I know it is a stretch -she though she was adding it to her TBR - screens are similar.  Just a thought, though it is still very frustrating. 

Date Posted: 10/9/2009 7:39 PM ET
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The other book I couldn't find turned up in the linen closet three months later.

Denise, I have some items I need to ask you about -- there's a tripod that disappeared about 4 years ago, and a soft orange velour shirt that went missing in a laundrymat back in 1975.  Would you do a quick check in your linen closet for me?:P

Date Posted: 10/9/2009 9:35 PM ET
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Date Posted: 10/9/2009 11:40 PM ET
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I can't find my favorite sweatshirt.  It's black with a Tae Kwon Do studio on it and some bleach stains.  It's my favorite ugly but comfy piece of clothing. Let me know when you find it.

Date Posted: 10/10/2009 1:02 AM ET
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I can't find my favorite WoW T-Shirt.  Murlocs, best Fish Tacos on Azeroth.

It came here with me to Texas, but I haven't seen it since.  [It came in my suitcase with me.]   The only place I haven't looked is hubby's dresser.

Date Posted: 10/10/2009 1:18 AM ET
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Lol ladies. . .maybe on the orange velour, only left footed sox appear in our house, no bleach stained sweatshirt, and sorry Michelle but no way am I returning the Fish Taco tee!!!

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/128298538306407500iminursoxst.jpg



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Date Posted: 10/10/2009 6:41 AM ET
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I listed a bunch of cookbooks when I first joined, and about 1/3 of them were on the club WL.  I put them in boxes in a seldom-used room and waited for requests to come in.  One week later, I couldn't find one of the books.  I ransacked the house, but it's still missing 3 months later.  The only other people in my house that week were my husband and teenage sons.  They didn't take the cookbook.  If our house was broken into, there was no sign of it, and nothing else was taken.  My only theories are of a supernatural kind.

Denise--check the closet for a men's size-12 14-kt gold high school ring (1977).  Given to me to wear on a chain around my neck by my future husband in 1980.  Went missing the summer of 1981.  Also 1-ct diamond engagement ring, last seen summer 1990.  (I don't tend to lose the cheap items, do I?) Reward offered.

Date Posted: 10/10/2009 11:30 AM ET
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Denise--check the closet for a men's size-12 14-kt gold high school ring (1977).  Given to me to wear on a chain around my neck by my future husband in 1980.  Went missing the summer of 1981.  Also 1-ct diamond engagement ring, last seen summer 1990.  (I don't tend to lose the cheap items, do I?) Reward offered.

 

Lol. You guys are cracking me up with the lost items search. I've misplaced a few books too, only to find them on the bookshelf later.... Damn book fairies.... 

And Marsha, I am with you. I never lose the cheap stuff either. I lost my 1ct engagement ring two summers ago. In the Gulf no less... slipped right off my hand, evil little fishies ate it I guess. Still miss that ring! :(



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Date Posted: 10/10/2009 10:26 PM ET
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I was trying to purge my shelves once and posted a WL cookbook that my husband brought back from a business trip.  I then had to sheepishly cancel the order when DH explained that he had bought it as a present for his sister.

(Two years ago).

(And now it's been 2 months and it's still sitting there - brand new, never been opened.  I'm going to mail it myself for her b-day this month).



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Date Posted: 10/10/2009 10:27 PM ET
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<<Had the book arrived, and the isbn been different, of course I would have had to take the appropriate *check in* course, ask for my credit back, which, more than likely would have led to hurt feelings because it's been my experience that those who don't care enough to read the rules, get an attitude when you want a credit back. >>


I posted a bunch of books by the ISBN on the back of the book. Didn't realize until I was looking through my bookshelf that it posted one as hardcover and it wasn't hardcover. Double checked the ISBN. ISBN was correct. It was a case where the publisher used the same ISBN for the hardcover and paperpack version of the book. So I went to the help docs and discovered I had to post it as a book without an ISBN even though it had one. I was not happy about that, but what can you do. So sometimes it's not about reading the rules, it's about odd circumstances that screw with things.

Date Posted: 10/10/2009 10:44 PM ET
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So sometimes it's not about reading the rules, it's about odd circumstances that screw with things.

I had one trade sized book during the first year I joined, that had three different ISBN numbers. All for the same book, but for different editions. The outside ISBN was for the tradeback size, the inside (on the copyright page) for the hardback size, and the ISBN inside the front cover for an unknown binding.

Since the inside was the same physical size and font size as the Hardback, I figured they'd taken a box of leftover HB innerds and just threw them in the binding machine to make the tradeback size. Don't know where the inside-front-cover ISBN came from, other than somewhere along the process they didn't co-ordinate with the people who put the ISBN on the back.

Frankenbook. It found a home at the UBS, because I wasn't going to go through the headache of trying to post it here and have it be the wrong binding.

Date Posted: 10/11/2009 2:04 AM ET
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Frankenbook, ROFL!

Date Posted: 10/11/2009 10:38 AM ET
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Many books list the other ISBN and binding options of that title inside on the publishing page. It's the ISBN on the back cover that you have to worry about matching. Also books can be posted without an ISBN if the binding matches.  It's simple to do and I find if it's a WL book it goes pretty quickly even with the PBS assigned ISBN.

Date Posted: 10/11/2009 10:43 AM ET
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There may be something wrong with the PBS site.  This just happened to me from the other side.  I just received a request for a book and went to get it.  Nowhere to be found and then I remembered that I mailed the book out some time ago. 

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