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Subject: Can I post this book?
Date Posted: 7/15/2009 11:31 AM ET
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I looked in the help section and didn't see this covered, so I'm here asking the 'experts'.

I picked up a book that's WLd and on the first page (which, in this book, is the page that gives a synopsis of the book and the back side lists several upcoming books by different authors.  Anyway, on this page there's a small piece that's been torn off the right bottom corner (about 7/8 x 1/2" in size).  It didn't take any text (just blank paper), but don't know if it's postable or not.  Thanks.  Pat

Taken care of.  Thanks.  Pat



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Date Posted: 7/15/2009 12:11 PM ET
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I take the rules at face value - No tears in text pages. I would probably not mark it as RWP, but I would not post one into the system with a torn page.

Date Posted: 7/15/2009 12:17 PM ET
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Thanks.  That's what I was afraid of.  Pat

Date Posted: 7/15/2009 12:21 PM ET
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I think it is postable. That is not a text page. If the page was missing completely the book would still be postable.



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Date Posted: 7/15/2009 12:54 PM ET
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Sara - thanks also.  That's where I'm torn.  It really doesn't affect the book, and if it weren't there wouldn't make any difference.  May go ahead and post it, and let them know.  Pat

Date Posted: 7/15/2009 1:18 PM ET
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They make a distinction in the rules about "text pages". For example, the rules say "no missing text pages" not "no missing pages". And, it says "no writing on text pages" etc.

For something that is a gray area, I generally go by the overall condition of the book. If its in great condition and has one gray area flaw, then I post it. If it has more than one gray area, I generally don't.

Date Posted: 7/15/2009 4:05 PM ET
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If the page was missing completely the book would still be postable.

See, I disagree with that one too. It says no missing text pages. To me, that means any text, not just the text that the sender deems I should want to see. If the site means no missing pages from the story, then they should say that instead of text. Text just means writing. 

It is an area that many member disagree on. The rules say no torn/gnawed pages. (that rule does not even include the word text) That to me means none of the pages in the book can be torn. It says no missing text pages. That to me means no missing pages that had words on them. Many others say that if its not part of the story its not important and find it postable. I have never seen TPTB rule one way or the other, they always just say use your best judgement.

Date Posted: 7/15/2009 4:56 PM ET
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Well, the reason I disagree is because pages have names. "title page" "half title page" "copyright page" "dedication page" "ad page" etc.

"Text page" has a specific meaning in publishing, and it generally means a story page.

Since PBS could clarify this at any point, I guess they feel that it is clear enough. Not that I think a book is postable with all kinds of pages ripped out and only the story left ... but only because that would fall into the "excessively worn" condition, not the "missing text pages" condition.

Date Posted: 7/15/2009 5:16 PM ET
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I think it's postable as it's not a text page.  Front matter is a different ball of wax.