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Subject: Is this postable?
Date Posted: 1/6/2012 2:54 PM ET
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I have the Consumer Reports Buying Guide 2012 that I would like to post if it is allowed.  I cannot find an ISBN anywhere--I have looked at the front and back covers as well as the page that lists the editors, authors, etc.  I do not see a copyright page.  The inside of the front and back covers have advertisements of Consumer Reports magazine.  And on the outside of the back cover is my name and address, as well as another Consumer Reports ad.  Does this seem postable?  I see previous editions listed in the system, but I know you cannot always trust that to mean it's postable.  Also, if it is postable, can I use permanent marker to line though my name and address on the back cover, or would that make it unpostable?  Thanks.  

Date Posted: 1/6/2012 3:02 PM ET
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If it has advertisements in it, it cannot be sent media mail which means it cannot be posted to PBS.

Date Posted: 1/6/2012 3:43 PM ET
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I think its perfectly fine. OK, maybe not. I went and checked and books can have advertising of other books, only. Not other stuff.

Books are ALLOWED to have advertisements in them of other publications. Consumer Reports does not accept advertising, that's a well known fact.

As far as the ISBN goes, I also have some Buying Guides from a subscription, and the ISBN (in my copies at least) is printed on the copyright page (which follows the Table of Contents), at the very bottom of the page, in tiny, tiny print.

As far as blacking out your name and address, that is also still postable. Just do it neatly and it shouldn't be a problem.



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Date Posted: 1/6/2012 6:03 PM ET
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The inside of the front and back covers have advertisements of Consumer Reports magazine.  And on the outside of the back cover is my name and address, as well as another Consumer Reports ad.

It sounds like a periodicle or magazine you received in the mail and not postable. A book would not come with your name printed on it.

 

Date Posted: 1/6/2012 6:16 PM ET
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It is a book, but it did come free with the subscription of Consumer Reports.  They sent it in the mail to my house.  Looks just like the picture in the following link, only mine is 2012 edition:  

http://www.paperbackswap.com/Buying-Guide-2009-Editors-Of-Consumer-Reports/book/1933524219/

Thanks everyone for the help.  

Date Posted: 1/6/2012 9:41 PM ET
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Ashley, I remember the Admin Team saying at one point that AAA tour books were postable here.  Why don't you drop them a line and ask them about the Consumer Guide book?  The ad for the magazine might be considered an incidental ad for something else by the same publisher, depending on Post Office interpretation.  It's worth asking.  Please post back here if you do contact them and let us know what they say.  Inquiring minds, and all...

 

To reach them, go to the bottom right corner of any page, and under "company" click on 'contact us."  Use the Feedback option.

Date Posted: 1/7/2012 9:14 AM ET
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Thank you.  I will contact them now and will let everyone know what they say.  

Subject: That was fast!
Date Posted: 1/7/2012 6:02 PM ET
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I got a response already!  This is what it said:  

 

If the advertising is incidental, i.e. limited to the inside covers, then this book can be posted. Since it has no ISBN, you will need to use the Post a Book Without an ISBN page. If it is requested from you, then you can mark out your name and address with permanent marker. Marks are permitted on the covers of books.

 

Sounds like I can't post it, becuase there is a Consumer Reports ad on the outside of the back cover.  At least that's how I'm interperting it.  

 

Thanks all for your help!  



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Date Posted: 1/13/2012 5:56 PM ET
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how did they post the one prior though, if yours in non postable?.



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Date Posted: 1/13/2012 6:32 PM ET
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how did they post the one prior

When we post something without an ISBN, there's no automatic check that takes place to be sure an item is postable.  Along with unpostable comic books, blank journals, and coloring books, I've seen a book light posted here, and even bookshelves.  Usually a member will notice something like this and point it out to the Admin Team, and they'll talk to the person who posted the non-postable item and will remove it.  Or a member will point out to the member that it's not postable according to the rules here, and the member will remove it herself.  (Best scenario.)

Also, the database tries to import just about anything with an ISBN, and some non-books have ISBNs.  Those listings are harder to get rid of.  If an ISBN item is deleted, the server just adds it back again when it does a database update.  But we can tag the listings as unpostable items.  And if there are actually items posted to the listing (if the listing has an "order" button) we can let the admin team know, and they'll get involved.

And thanks so much Ashley for letting us know the Team's response!

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Date Posted: 1/15/2012 2:12 AM ET
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If it has advertisements in it, it cannot be sent media mail which means it cannot be posted to PBS.

Whether an item can be sent media mail has no bearing on whether it can be posted on PBS. Books do not have to be sent media mail.

 
 
Date Posted: 1/15/2012 2:38 AM ET
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Not quite sure that's true Lori.  There may be a couple rare exceptions, but for the most part Media Mail and Postability are the same.