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Subject: Postable?
Date Posted: 2/27/2012 4:25 PM ET
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There is about a 2 inch tear at the top of this page







This page is the very last page "more books by this author"


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Date Posted: 2/27/2012 4:32 PM ET
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Technically, the torn page makes it unpostable.  The second picture looks like the spine is starting to crack, but that is still postable as long as the pages are still intact and not loose.


Of course, I'm sure if you RWAP it you'll get the whole "but it's perfectly readable" or "this is a used book site" spiel.  I have occasionally gotten ones like this with a minor flaw and have given the sender the benefit of the doubt and then just offered it in the Book Bazaar or as a RAOK to a friend I knew was waiting for it.  It is totally within your rights to claim this as a RWAP and ask for your credit returned, though.

Good luck!

Date Posted: 2/27/2012 4:40 PM ET
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Tear = Probably postable - it looks like it is the first page in the book and probably not a text page in the story? Could it be removed from the book and not be noticed? IMO I'd remove it before sending the book with a torn page, but the rules say no torn "text" pages.

Binding = Postable - looks like pinhole cracks, still fully intact and nothing coming loose

The last picture is too blurry to tell anything. It looks worse, but still looks to have the pages all attached to the book and not split into two pieces. The guideline is if the pages are still fully intact.

Date Posted: 2/27/2012 4:45 PM ET
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That looks like one of those borderline cases. You could call it either way. 

Date Posted: 2/27/2012 5:58 PM ET
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I would not post it.
Date Posted: 2/27/2012 6:09 PM ET
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Techincally yes since that page with the tear is not a text page and could be removed.  Its one of those 'end of the road' books.. Its journey ends with you.

Date Posted: 2/27/2012 6:16 PM ET
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LOL, I wasn't even noticing that it was the first page in the book.  In that case, as everyone above has said, it's not a text page, so I'd still call it postable.

Date Posted: 2/27/2012 6:22 PM ET
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Thank ya kindly!  I appreciate your input.

Date Posted: 2/27/2012 6:28 PM ET
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I think the rip is OK (not a text page), the spine is slightly questionable, but probably OK, and honestly, those wrinkles in the pages would make me suspect water damage, which you haven't mentioned.

Date Posted: 2/27/2012 8:51 PM ET
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Sara, I was going to say the same thing, looks like major water damage--or else it just photographed oddly.


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Date Posted: 2/27/2012 8:57 PM ET
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I didn't even notice the spine issues!   I was focused on the suspected water damage.

Date Posted: 2/28/2012 12:48 AM ET
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Me too, picture number three has pages puckered on the corners.  You might wish to check for water/liquid damage.

Date Posted: 2/28/2012 5:06 AM ET
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The rules say:

No torn or chewed/gnawed pages

No loose or missing text pages


So a torn page, even on a non-text page, would make it unpostable.  But there are other issues too -- can't tell if it's water damage or pressure -- like it had something heavy on top of it, or was left closed with something inside it.  You can tell if it's water damage by the texture.


Date Posted: 2/28/2012 12:12 PM ET
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It's an oddity and a loophole in the rules, but if you remove the ripped non-text page, the book would be postable. I hardly ever come across that, but if I did, I would leave the page in the book, probably tape it, and mail it out, with the caveat to the requestor that they can remove the page if they want to, to make the book 100% unquestionably postable.

Whenever I have a situation on a book that can be repaired but makes the book unpostable as-is (like smears on the outside edge of the pages, or something sticky on the cover) I will always make the repair before sending it out, BUT I don't like to remove pages or the dustjacket from books unless it is absolutely required (like if there is something gross or disgusting on them). If they are just ripped, I leave them be, tape them up, and send it along unless, of couse, there is an applicable RC to be followed.

I myself would prefer to receive a book with a taped non-text page than a missing non-text page, even though the first is technically not postable, while the second is. Especially if the book in question is in otherwise great condition.

I will say that one of the libraries around me cuts off their bar code (on the first page inside the cover) with scissors, leaving part of the page missing, although not torn or ripped. I mail those out without removing that page, as that is the way I would prefer to receive it. (It's always a non-text page affected).

Date Posted: 2/28/2012 9:10 PM ET
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I already marked it received. It's heading to Kuwait and won't be posted again.