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Subject: Is this Postable???
Date Posted: 12/12/2007 3:57 AM ET
Member Since: 4/25/2007
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I received a book today that I'm not sure if I should mark it received w/problem or not. I have read the conditions so many times but would like the opinions of others. This is not a book I would have felt comfortable posting myself.

The book is a paperback and the back cover is so badly creased from top to bottom that it feels like it could easily break off (it feels very brittle - in fact, it looks like the "plastic" coating is the only thing keeping the cover in tact). The second thing is on the first 4 pages (non-text pages), there is some sort of stain/fluid marks. And finally, on the front, right where the cover meets the spine, it's torn about a 1/2 inch.  Thoughts?

Date Posted: 12/12/2007 4:44 AM ET
Member Since: 8/26/2006
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Hey Kelly, --

Sorry you ended up with that kind of a book!

In general, a crease in the cover is okay.  The brittleness is your call, since it's hard for anyone but you to judge.  (Like you, if I felt like a book was about to fall apart, I wouldn't post it.)  There's no water damage or staining allowed.  (Cookbooks have their own specific rules.)  A cover tear of less than an inch is okay.  (Admittedly, when you put it all together, the book doesn't sound all that great!)

My own feeling is that if a paperback book can hold up to, say, ten readings, then maybe one out of ten books I get will be on its last reading, and I should be the one to gracefully retire it from the site.  I also recognize that someone else's judgement of when a book crosses that line will differ from mine, so I may get a few books that seem to me to be at a point where I would not have posted it myself.  The book you're describing probably falls into that category.  And I'm philosophical about that kind of book.  If it isn't quite ready for the trash bin, I might offer it as a freebie.

The water/liquid damage isn't allowed though.  It doesn't matter if the book's still readable or not, it just against the site rules.  I can think of a few things you could do, and I'm sure others will come up with more suggestions.  You can a) mark it received with a problem and leave it at that, b) mark it received with a problem and ask for your credit back, c) PM the person, asking for some kind of resolution, like a free book or a credit, or even just an apology, and if you're satisfied, just mark it received.   At this point, it's between the two of you.  It's possible that the sender hadn't read the book and wasn't aware of the water damage, or that it's from a new member who hasn't read the guidelines, so he or she may be happy to make restitution.

It sounds to me as if you're really thoughful, and are looking closely at the details, trying to figure out the right way to handle it.  Don't hesitate to mark it received with a problem, if that feels like the best solution.  That's what the option is there for.  If the sender usually sends books in good condition, then the mark against him for this trade won't make much difference.  If he has a habit of sending damaged books, then you're helping educate him (he'll get an e-mail about it) and if he there's a pattern, his account will be in jeopardy.

Hope this helps, and I'm sure other members will have helpful ideas.  :-)

 

 

 

 

Date Posted: 12/12/2007 8:26 AM ET
Member Since: 8/27/2005
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Patty,

"My own feeling is that if a paperback book can hold up to, say, ten readings, then maybe one out of ten books I get will be on its last reading, and I should be the one to gracefully retire it from the site.  I also recognize that someone else's judgement of when a book crosses that line will differ from mine, so I may get a few books that seem to me to be at a point where I would not have posted it myself."

This is the best expression of this thought that I've seen!  I think there are a lot of people who feel that every book they get should be re-postable, but when you stop to think about it, this would mean that every book will last forever, which obviously is impossible.   People should remind themselves that books show wear and tear from being read.  I had a Spanish teacher in high school that recorded the condition of our textbooks at the beginning and the end of the year--if the book DIDN'T show any wear and tear after we used it for a year she would tell us that we didn't study enough!

I think that when we trade for a book here, we are trading for a book that is in readable condition.  If it's in good enough condition to repost, that's a bonus. 

Date Posted: 12/12/2007 10:51 AM ET
Member Since: 8/23/2007
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Patty: I take that same attitude.  Eventually every book comes to it's last owner and sometimes it might be me.

In this books case it wasn't postable because of the stains. It should be marked as received with a problem. Hopefully you will get your credit back.  Covers can have a tear up to 1". 

I would read it anyway and then offer it as a freebie with an order from my shelf. 

Date Posted: 12/12/2007 12:09 PM ET
Member Since: 4/25/2007
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Thanks for the suggestions! :) I really appreciate it. I've received close to 30 books and this was the first that showed so much wear that it took me by surprise. I don't expect new or like new books and this one honestly isn't even that big of a deal to me. I know the stains/water damage is not allowed 'cept in cookbooks but I wasn't sure about such bad creases and the tear (since it's by the spine).

Thanks again!!! :)