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Subject: I posted hardcovers and people have wishlisted paperbacks.
Date Posted: 8/12/2007 12:20 AM ET
Member Since: 8/6/2007
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Hi everyone

I'm sorry if this is a long and boring post, but I need to explain my mess.  I am a new member of PBS.  On my first night here I listed about 50 books, and they are all popular titles that get wishlisted often, but my books are hardcovers.  I did a wishlist search and found that 6 people had wishlisted one particular book that I had posted (I picked a random title) -- but every single one of them had wishlisted the paperback, so the system wasn't matching their wish to my book and letting them know I had posted it.

When I did the wishlist search, it only showed me the number of people who had wishlisted the book.  It didn't give me their names, so I couldn't PM them and offer my hardcover book and see if they wanted to order it,  even though they had wishlisted the paperback.  I didn't know how to get the names of the people with my book on their wishlist, so I did something stupid -- I deleted the hardcover book from my bookshelf and posted the paperback, even though I didn't have it.  I only did it so that I could find out WHO had wishlisted my book, and then PM that person and ask if he or she would be interested in my hardcover version of a book on their wishlist.  I fully intended to delete the paperback version as soon as I had got the name to PM.  Unfortunately I found out the hard way that if you post a book somebody has wishlisted, the system won't let you delete it!  Your book automatically goes on  "wishlist hold" and cannot be deleted. 

So... I PMed the person who requested my book and let him know that I had the hardcover rather than the paperback.  I apologized for my mistake and explained why I had done it.  He said that was okay, but he had all the books he needs right  now, and he let the 48 hour wishlist hold expire so my book was automatically offered to the next person in line.   So I then PMed him too and did the same; explanation and groveling apology along with confession of my stupidity.  I haven't heard back yet, but I'm not too worried about it.  We all make mistakes and I won't do it again. 

Anyway, since making that mistake, I spent two hours reading over ALL the "Help" documentation I could find on PBS.   I found a section that addresses my problem specifically.  It says that if you have wishlisted a book, and somebody posts a different version of that book -- say you wishlisted the paperback and somebody posts the hardcover or the audio book -- that the PBS system will notify you and you can decide if you want the other version or not.  That sounds like it solves  my  problem neatly!  Except...  it doesn't seem to work that way.  The first person I had PMed said that he never got any notification when I posted a hardcover version of a book on his wishlist.  So I did a test with a friend of mine -- I asked her to put a paperback version of a book on her wishlist, then I posted the hardcover of that book.  She was never notified either.  Nothing in her email, no indication on her account or her wishlist or anywhere.  She had absolutely no way to know that I had just posted a hardcover of a book on her wishlist.

Does anybody know what's up with this?  What should I do?  I admit I am frustrated that I have a lot of very popular fiction that dozens of people have on their wishlist, but the system isn't matching us up because my books are hardcovers.  I know some people probably ONLY want paperbacks, but I'd bet a lot more people put the paperback on their wishlist because they assume (this is Paper Back Swap after all) the papeback is more likely to be posted by another person. 

There are a lot of people who would like to have my hardcovers, and would give me a credit for them.  How do I contact those people?  I can't do what I did before; list the paperback even though I don't have it.  Because that's cheating the system and it might annoy people if I have to keep PMing every single person and saying "I'm sorry but I don't actually have the book  I posted, mine is a hardcover..."  It's just not cool.  But doing a wishlist seach doesn't tell me which members want my book, only how many.  There has to be a way to PM people who put my title on their wishlist so I can ask them if they would like my hardcover.

Help!

love from

Jenni

 



Last Edited on: 8/12/07 12:23 AM ET - Total times edited: 1
T. -
Date Posted: 8/12/2007 12:27 AM ET
Member Since: 1/21/2007
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There is a thread in the Book Bazaar just for Wishlisted books with different ISBNs---that's how most people go about alerting others.  I know you are just trying to do good but you are breaking the rules by listing your books under the wrong binding type.

Date Posted: 8/12/2007 12:29 AM ET
Member Since: 6/28/2007
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I don't know why people aren't getting notified that your Hardcover is available I have the exact opposite. I have a Hardcover wishlisted and I have gotten easily 10 notifications of paperback versions... could be a system glitch or it may be something else odd like your version is not directly linked to the paperback variant.


But since you can't get the wishlist names you could post a topic in the relevant forum saying "Wishlisted under a different ISBN" and list the names of the books. It won't account for the order on the wishlist but at least it will let someone who is wanting the book know that it is available in an alternate format if they read the forums. 

Angie -
Date Posted: 8/12/2007 12:32 AM ET
Member Since: 2/24/2007
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You can opt out of the emails. I've been tempted to do it many times, because when you are trying to collect certain books like in hardcover but are very common in other bindings, you can get that email at least every day, sometimes multiple times a day, and it's a little annoying. For me, I decided it was worth it to keep the emails for my other WL books, but I can see how people would opt out.

Or, they may have inadvertantly opted out of the emails when they set up their account, it should be able to be fixed under account settings.

Date Posted: 8/12/2007 12:37 AM ET
Member Since: 1/15/2007
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I know that when there is a different binding type (or even publishing date I believe) offered for a wishlisted book I want I get an email notification saying something to the effect of "a similar book to your wishlisted blah blah blah has been posted into the system.  Check it out to see if you want it."  So people should be getting notifications when you post your hardcover even if they have the paperback wishlisted.  I am not sure why no one has taken up the offer yet.  If it is a popular book people might be wanting to get a lighter copy just so they can read it and repost it for swapping without having to pay higher postage that heavier hardbacks rack up.  When I swap for hardbacks it tends to be for keeps.  Just a theory. 

As a person who is usually seeking specific binding types please don't post it as something it isn't so that people will notice it more.  They should already be getting email notifications if they have that book wishisted as a differing type as it is.  If you are wanting to get people's attention for the selection of hardbacks you have perhaps you should put a post in one of the message boards for the genra your books fit into to let like minded people know what you have available.  You can also post a few select books as your message board sig that could attract attention to your bookshelf as you make friends here on the boards.  Hopefully others can give you some better ideas. :)

Date Posted: 8/12/2007 12:58 AM ET
Member Since: 8/6/2007
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Hi everyone

Thanks for your replies!  It is strange that for the two random books I chose to test, people who had listed the paperback on their wishlist weren't being notified when I posted the hardcover.  From what everybody is saying, there is nothing wrong with the system and many members are still receiving -- even to the point of it being annoying -- those email reminders alerting them to a different version of a wishlist book having been posted.  Well, that's all I needed to know!  I thought based on my results with the two books I tested it out with that something was wrong with PBS and NONE of my hardcovers were being offered to people who wanted the paperbacks.  I guess it was just a system glitch or maybe a weird issue with those two particular books (both James Patterson thrillers) or, as someone suggested, my friend has somehow managed to turn off the email notification thingie and forgotten about it. 

I will go  and post a small list of some of the hardcovers I've got listed, in  the appropriate section, just in case there's an issue with more than just the two random books from my shelf.  But in the mean time it's good to know people are being notified of my posted books and are just choosing not to order a hardcover -- as opposed to my poor books being posted into the Void and nobody ever knowing about it!

love from

Jenni

Date Posted: 8/12/2007 8:58 AM ET
Member Since: 3/6/2006
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I am supposed to but do not get notifications of different bindings of books that get listed.  Apparently I'm supposed to check my club communications cuz the emails I"m getting from PBS lately are sporadic at best and my settings haven't been touched in two years.  Others may be having this same problem and just not getting the notification emails.  Best best is to list in the book bazaar and I bet the books are snatched right up!

Date Posted: 8/12/2007 9:19 AM ET
Member Since: 6/10/2006
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Michelle,

    I get just the opposite,  I get notified of every book that is on my wishlist that gets posted into the system.  I have Harry Potter books on my wishlist and I get swamped with notifications about the paperback versions!

Date Posted: 8/12/2007 9:53 AM ET
Member Since: 9/2/2006
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hmmm I've never gotten a notification, granted could be that none of my WL books ever came in another format but I do know that some have been listed under differnt ISBN's so I technically I would have thought I would have gotten a notice. 

Date Posted: 8/12/2007 9:58 AM ET
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I'm not getting the notifications about other versions of the books either, I don't think.   I got one such email months and months ago, but haven't seen a one since.   Of course it's possible another one hasn't come up but somehow I doubt it.  Some days I get no emails at all, then the next day I might get 100 all in a bunch from PBS.  Doesn't bother me a lot, but I do wonder what's up with the email system.

Date Posted: 8/12/2007 10:08 AM ET
Member Since: 5/29/2007
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If you go to your account, then to the tab titled "settings" and scroll down you will find a blue box titled "email settings".  There are about 8 boxes there that you can "check" and "uncheck" as you so decide.  And one of those boxes is for "other versions of WL books".  It's a bit confusing as it says to check the box if you DON'T WANT to be notified of other versions of a WL book.  I suspect a number of people check that box thinking they will be notified of all versions of a WL book, when in fact they've insured themselves of just the opposite. 

Date Posted: 8/12/2007 10:30 AM ET
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The problem with the emails could also be that the book titles are slightly different so the system isnt recognizing them as similar versions to the WL book. For instance if your wishing for The Death Collectors in paperback and someone posts The Death Collectors A Novel in hardback you might not get the email because the titles didnt match up.