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Subject: Putting a Limit on Books
Date Posted: 6/19/2013 3:46 PM ET
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I don't know about you, but I can only afford to mail 7-8 books per week.  I have to try to control this through the vacation hold

function.  Sometimes extra books slip through, and of course, I go ahead and mail them.  Is there some way PBS could let

members put a limit on the number of book orders they can receive per week?  It sure would be easier than using Vacation

Hold.  Once a member has had 7 orders for the week, their account goes on hold automatically, and someone browsing would

receive a message something like, "Sorry, this member's quota for the week has been reached.  Try again next week."

 

Of course, I'm using 7 as an example.  You could choose 3 or 20.  That would be up to you.  Just a suggestion.

 

Judye / maysied

 

Date Posted: 6/19/2013 4:03 PM ET
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You could look at it this way - this week you might reach your limit, next week not, and the week after that not, but then the next week you might have requests for 14 or 21 books.  If you saved up your postage money in the weeks that you didn't hit your self-imposed limit, you'd probably not have to put your shelf on vacation hold.  Just a thought.  Good luck.

To answer your question though, I'm not sure that a self-imposed limit would be feasible without a lot of work on the part of TPTB, and for some it's not a problem in that they either can afford the postage to send out as many books as they get requests for, or they don't get any requests for weeks or months so there would be no need of a limit.

Pat

Date Posted: 6/19/2013 4:27 PM ET
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You should send something to TPTB. I never thought they'd put the 'not now' option for wishlisted books and they did that, so you never know...

Date Posted: 6/19/2013 4:40 PM ET
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Suggestions of that nature can be sent to the PBS Team by using the "Contact Us" link at the bottom of any PBS page, then the "Feedback" button.

Another way to limit the number of requests you get is to limit the number of Wish Listed books you post in any given week.

Date Posted: 6/19/2013 4:41 PM ET
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The "Not Now" was added when the gold key expanded to have the send to a friend option. As us beta testers noticed that the option made controlling your credit level much more difficult.

That said, I'd object to that limit. I shop in bunches, ordering books for my niece's classroom before school starts, looking for groups and deals.

Date Posted: 6/19/2013 5:18 PM ET
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I am just learning about the Book Bazaar and threads like Wishlist Multiples.  I sent 7 books in 1 package this week!  Maybe that could help you, too.



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Date Posted: 6/19/2013 6:29 PM ET
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It's a good idea.  Most people probably wouldn't use it, but it would be super helpful for those who did. You probably wouldn't even need the "sorry..." message.  The system could just place the account on hold once the limit was reached, and any further request would go to the next sender in line.

Meanwhile, as a work-around, you can post books only when your account is on vacation hold.  Before you remove the vacation hold, go to your bookshelf and count the books that have a green or red "W", indicating that they are wish list books.  If there are more than 7 wish list books, place some of them on individual bookshelf hold (or delete them from your bookshelf.)  Then take your account off vacation hold for a moment before you reinstate the vacation hold.

If you haven't reached your limit of seven, you wouldn't have to reinstate the vacation hold right away.  That way some of your non-WL books might be requested, too.

 

Date Posted: 6/19/2013 8:04 PM ET
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Well, I'd say the idea is that you only post what you are willing to send out. I know people want to get books into the FIFO lines, but that is a choice they make with a risk of sending more than they want to. Lord knows I'd freak if all the books on my shelf were requested at once. The Terms of Use do say to only post books you are willing to send out. 

Date Posted: 6/19/2013 8:17 PM ET
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I wish I got 7-8 requests a weeksmiley

Date Posted: 6/19/2013 9:04 PM ET
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Well, I'd say the idea is that you only post what you are willing to send out.

You're right, of course, Melanie.  I'm just thinking of people who post a stack of 30 books, expecting to get in line to send them.  Then they panic because 12 of them turned out to be wish list books.  They're happy to send them -- they just didn't expect to have so many of them requested all at once.  It can seem like a lot of postage to pay.  But it does happen more to brand-new members than to those of us who have been around for a while.

Date Posted: 6/19/2013 9:32 PM ET
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We all seem to be at different places on this idea.  I like to have a moderately large bookshelf (250) to attract lookers.  Much of it is duplicates already in the system - I know that.  However, I get SO many requests if I put out my wish list books (I have 4 huge boxes of those) that I can get 10 requests in one second.  It's happened!  I'm still learning how this site works. 

 

I do think a limit function would be very useful to some who have active bookshelves and a budget.  Of course, if you don't want a limit, there should be an option for you to choose saying "none."  It would really help me out instead of hoovering over my site on Tues. to know when to go on vacation.  One day I was only open 4 hours for the entire week.  But, you  should know also, that I pay for these books.  I buy them at a discount price.  I like helping people find books they really want, but I can't take on the entire country - HA!  I have almost completed my own library.  I may lack 2-3 - I don't need any books.  Ii plan to donate some of my credits when that school offer comes around again.

Judye / maysied

 

 

 

Judye / maysied

Date Posted: 6/19/2013 9:36 PM ET
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I just go on vacation hold when I am happy with my credit stash and have hit my postage budget and autorequest most of my WL books.  And I don't afford to mail 7 or 8 a month.  I mostly only post WL books and I just post them when I need credits and have postage money.  I donate the ones likely to sit (I also have very limited space). 

I don't think a max order# would really work well with FIFO.  If you can't afford to send out a lot then keep a smaller bookshelf.  If you have a lot of heavily posted books that move more slowly then offer htem in a deal. You'll save on postage, earn credits and get them out of your house faster.  Or join box of books and then you only have to do box deals when you want and have the postage budget. 

I don't think I've ever had more than 50 books posted since I joined and I've never had trouble earning enough credits to keep up with a fairly active WL.  Maybe I had a 100 posted for awhile but mostly 50 or less.

Date Posted: 6/19/2013 10:12 PM ET
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If you don't need credits and don't want to order books for yourself for now, you can keep your shelf on vacation hold for as long as you want.

If you get the itch to send out some WL books you can use the WL Multiples thread in the book bazaar and only list as many as you can afford to send at the time.



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Date Posted: 6/19/2013 10:41 PM ET
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Another option, for the moment (although it would take a bit more work),would be to take a look ta the number of wishers for the WL books you have and post the 6 or 7 that have the least wishers.  The ones with the greater numbers can wait a while and you'll only mail out the number you choose. 

Date Posted: 6/19/2013 11:41 PM ET
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One other thought for getting rid of large quantities of Wish List books, Maysied, is to look into PBS gatherings/events in your area.  The North Texas chapter seems pretty active, and they have a gathering coming up later this month. http://www.paperbackswap.com/Active-N-TX-Group-June/topic/151868/

Sometimes book swapping goes on at those sorts of events, so it might be one way to get rid of some of your extras as you make new friends.

Date Posted: 6/20/2013 8:31 AM ET
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I used to do that too. Buy cheap books just to post because I liked sendign them out. But it quickly turns into too much money, especially if you can't afford much postage and you aren't using the credits.  I realized one day that I had over 100 credits and if you figure that at a $2.50 average (just in postage) that's a lot of money to have tied up in a trading site if you are on a tight budget.  You won't be doing PBS a great diservice if you don't buy and post books with multiple copies in the system. Or if you leave that WL book you aren't interested in reading yourself at the thrift store.  Why go through that expense if you don't have much money? 

Just saying.  I don't see them investing the time & money into a limit when they have the vacation hold feature.

Date Posted: 6/20/2013 9:25 AM ET
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I go on vacation hold, but continue to add books to my bookshelf.  When I'm ready to send out more books, I look to see which books are wishlisted (you can sort your shelf to put these first) and put individual holds on all but the ones I want to send out.  I then go *off* vacation, at which point, I pretty much immediately have requests for all the wish-listed books not on hold.  I tend to leave myself off hold until all the requests are either approved or turned down, then I go on vacation again.  (One reason to stay off vacation during this period is to let requestors pick additional books off my shelf if they want.)

Date Posted: 6/20/2013 11:43 AM ET
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I can imagine it being useful for some people, so I don't think it would hurt to suggest the idea. It's not really the way I use PBS. I tend to only post wishlisted or only-one-listed books, since my storage space is limited, so I never have a big bookshelf waiting for orders. I always check to see if a book is wishlisted before I post it, and never post more than I want to send at one time (financially or logistically). Right now I think I have 10+ books on my bookshelf which is the biggest it's probably ever been. I'd be surprised if any member is getting more than 10 orders a week for books that aren't wishlisted - it just seems improbable that all of them are coming up to the top of their relative FIFO queues at the same time. (Not including multiple book orders in there, obviously.)

Date Posted: 6/20/2013 12:28 PM ET
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I only post my W/L books when I need or want credits. If one of my FIFO books pop us as requested I am just happy to get rid ot it.