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Subject: Question about a magazine...
Date Posted: 6/4/2011 11:08 PM ET
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This is a children's magazine that feels more like a book (thicker, book-like cover and pages), contains absolutely no advertising, and actually has an ISBN listed on the back cover.  I realize that normal magazines aren't postable due to the ads which make them not acceptable for media mail.  This one could be sent via media mail.  The magazine states that it's designed for school use.  My question is... is it postable?  All I could find in the help docs is that magazines are unpostable due to the ads.  This one has none.  So what's the verdict? 
Here's the info:
Odyssey: Science that's Out of this World
Laboratory in Space
Volume 6 - Number 2 - February 1997
ISBN 0382408004

Date Posted: 6/5/2011 12:35 AM ET
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I would think it would be alright, but maybe you should ask a tour guide.

Or take one to the post office and ask.  (unwrapped)

Date Posted: 6/5/2011 1:09 AM ET
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 A TG is just going to be able to give you their opinion, the only way to get an absolute answer is to send in Feedback and ask the Team. I would say if it is a magazine that was published monthly, then no, periodicals shouldn't be posted. If it is something that is more of a published book than a monthly magazine then it is probably postable.

I can't get anything to show up in the system for that ISBN. I definitely wouldn't manually add a magazine to the system without asking the Team.

Date Posted: 6/5/2011 5:49 AM ET
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Thanks.  I'll ask TPTB.

Date Posted: 6/5/2011 7:37 AM ET
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"  I realize that normal magazines aren't postable due to the ads which make them not acceptable for media mail. "

 

Not correct.  Books with advertising do not qualify to be mailed at the Media Mail rate.  Magazines do not qualify to be mailed at the Media Mail rate if they were originally entered as Periodicals (formerly Second Class).  Ads or not, periodicals cannot be mailed at the Media Mail rate.

 

Here is the relevant portion of the DMM: 

Mailable matter meeting one of the specific eligibility standards in 3.2, and that is neither mailed or required to be mailed as First-Class Mail nor entered as Periodicals, may be mailed as Media Mail.



Last Edited on: 6/5/11 7:40 AM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 6/5/2011 10:55 AM ET
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I would guess that they are postable. A year or two ago I asked the Team if McSweeney's Quarterly issues were postable, and they said "yes".  I'll try to find the thread and link to it.

Edit: Here we go.  see this.

 

From TPTB re: McSweeney's Quarterly Concern:

Dear Carolyn,

Hardbound copies of a magazine that has no advertising are fine to post here.  Magazines as a category are not permitted - since they have advertising and can't be sent Media Mail; and they are flimsy and don't stand up well to multiple swaps; and requestors balk at paying a credit for a magazine instead of a book.  Since these are not true of a hardbound copy of a magazine like McSweeney's, you can post these here.

Have a great day!

The PaperBackSwap Team



Last Edited on: 6/5/11 10:59 AM ET - Total times edited: 2
Date Posted: 6/5/2011 11:54 AM ET
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There seem to be a lot of slots for science fiction magazines (which are really more like anthologies than your average magazine).  For example, if you do asearch on "galaxy magazine", you find a lot of slots.  I would assume if it has a slot, it is postable.

Date Posted: 6/5/2011 12:00 PM ET
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  I would assume if it has a slot, it is postable.  - This should never be assumed. There is a TON of stuff in the database that is not postable to PBS. If it has an ISBN it can get into the database. If it is on the Not Allowed list it shouldn't be posted. Magazines as a rule are not postable. Since there are some exceptions to that rule ask the Team if you think yours might be an exception, but please don't assume because an item shows when searched for it is postable.

Date Posted: 6/5/2011 3:06 PM ET
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Shonen Jump is a thick anime that is in our data base.   I took one to the post office and asked and the person at the counter who flipped through it and said since it had no advertising it could go media mail.  However I have been afraid to list it because I'm afraid another postal worker may disagree...   cunundrum

Date Posted: 6/6/2011 11:42 AM ET
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Adrienne- yes it depends on the postal worker.  Even in various libraries it is listed as a magazine others a paperback.  And most media mail look sees would just open, see a magazine type item and charge you the first class rate for that item.

Personally, I'd say no it is not postable, but you could post in the book bazaar saying it has to go first class.