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Subject: question about rcs
Date Posted: 5/2/2012 11:30 PM ET
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Hi I recently posted a wishlist book (Twilight hardcover), and I have had to reject three RCs.  All Rcs want the dust jacket.  Now I have the dust jacket but it has a two inch rip in the corner.  So I have been scared of their RCS and getting jonesed 

out of my credit.  I mean the hardcover book is going to cost around 3 bucks to send.  Am I wrong for doing so? Can I get in trouble because I have to reject RCs?

Date Posted: 5/2/2012 11:35 PM ET
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You do not get in trouble for turning down RCs.  You may turn as many as you want down.  And you are anonymous to the requestor.

Date Posted: 5/2/2012 11:38 PM ET
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You are correct by turning down the RCs, your book does not meet them. If there is an RC asking for the dustcover, the postability rules for a cover apply and a rip must be 1" or less.  If you sent the book a receiver with an RC requiring the dust jacket would be justified in marking the book RWAP. Just keep denying DJ RCs, you do not get penalized for not meeting them.

Date Posted: 5/3/2012 12:46 AM ET
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ANother question.  If I let the person know beforehand about the cover, and they accept it.  I send it.  Can they rightfully decide to mark it as RWAP then even though I let them know and they agreed beforehand.  

Date Posted: 5/3/2012 1:45 AM ET
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That gets into a grayer subject. If you've contacted them before hand and they've agreed to it, they should be honest and not mark it RWAP, but you should really just be turning down those RCs because your book doesn't meet them-so technically their RWAP would be correct. This is IF THEY HAVE AN RC REQUIRING A DJ. If they don't have the RC requireing the DJ, then it is perfectly postable, the DJ could be in tatters and be sent.

Date Posted: 5/3/2012 2:45 AM ET
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I'd recommend turning down any RC that asks for a dust cover.  You are not required to have the jacket.  And if a bunch of them are grouped at the top of the wish list, then it sounds like plenty of folks did not have one.

I would not ask if it was okay.  PBS states that it is.  Unless there is a RC...

Date Posted: 5/3/2012 8:16 AM ET
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I don't PM over anything postable.  Just creates more work and too many what ifs.  If there's no RC then send the book. If there's an RC for dust jacket, decline.

Date Posted: 5/3/2012 12:41 PM ET
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 If I let the person know beforehand about the cover, and they accept it.  I send it.  Can they rightfully decide to mark it as RWAP then even though I let them know and they agreed beforehand.

If they have a RC about the dust jacket, then keep declining the RCs, because the rip makes your dustjacket unpostable.

If they do not have a RC, there is no need to contact them to ask first. You may send the book with the dustjacket and the rip. If they complain, then tell them to remove the dustjacket and throw it in the trash, which will make the book postable according to PBS rules.

Date Posted: 5/3/2012 1:11 PM ET
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I agree that you should decline the dust jacket RCs.  If at some point someone ever tells you, "I want the book even though it doesn't meet my RC," ask them to turn the RC off and request it again.

Date Posted: 5/3/2012 2:04 PM ET
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Thanks guys for the information.  So if they have no rc and I ship the book with the dust jacket they can't claim it damaged as long as book is intact?

Date Posted: 5/3/2012 2:32 PM ET
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Correct. If they do, point them to the Help Center where it says that the condition of the DJ does not matter if there is no RC, only the condition of the book (and you would not have to return a credit if they complained about DJ condition without an RC).

Book Condition Criteria for 'Swappability' at PBS

When you Post a book, you are asked to confirm that the book is "in good condition, and not excessively worn". It is impossible to list all of the ways in which a book might be considered excessively worn, but the criteria below are as comprehensive as we have been able to make them.

If you feel your book falls into a "grey area", you can either post the book and send a Personal Message to the requestor, or not post the book. We have delineated what we can, and we expect members to follow these guidelines, and use their common sense in cases that are unclear. If you would not mind "paying" a credit for a book you are considering posting, then it is probably okay to post. However, book condition can be a subjective matter. Keep in mind that a pattern of sending out poor-condition or inappropriate books will jeopardize a sender's membership.

These Guidelines are not suggestions. They are criteria to which all books Posted here MUST comply.

All of the information below apply both to swapping for credits and Box-O-Books swapping.

General remarks:

  • This is a used-book swapping site; books are not expected to be in like-new condition.
    • Older books may have some page yellowing or spine-creasing or dogeared pages; these are all OKAY.
    • Decirculated library books may have various markings and/or stamps inside or outside or on the page edges of the book; this is OKAY. These may not obscure text.
    • BookCrossing books may have stickers or stamps or markings on the outside or inside covers or page edges of the book; this is OKAY. These may not obscure text.
    • Hardbacks do NOT have to include their dustjackets.
    • Audiobooks MUST be the original cassettes/CDs, but do NOT have to include the outer "box" that held the set.
    • Audiobooks must be playable and have all the CDs/cassettes.
    • Books that require batteries to work do NOT have to have working batteries.
    • "Playaway" books must include working headphones.
    • Since this is a used-book swap, members should not expect to receive non-Media items with the books.
    • There is an exception to general condition guidelines for textbooks; see below.
    • There is an exception to general condition guidelines for cookbooks; see below.
    • There is an exception to general condition guidelines for travel guides; see below.
  • We do NOT have a place for members to describe the condition of a particular copy of a book.
    • ALL books on PBS are expected to be in "good, not excessively worn" condition
    • Books are requested in FIFO (first-in, first-out) order
  • If you would like your books to be in "better-than-PBS" condition :
    • You are responsible for setting Requestor Conditions on your account.

Guidelines:

Overall Condition:

  • No damage at all from water or other liquid
  • Not soiled
  • No stains (exception for cookbooks--see below)
  • No mold
  • no highlighting, underlining or writing on text pages (exception for Textbooks/Workbooks and travel guidebooks --see below)

Dust Jacket:

  • The DUST JACKET (this is not the same as the cover of a book) does not have to be included with a book at all, unless the requestor had this in their Requestor Conditions.
  • So DUST JACKET condition cannot be considered as part of the condition of a book, unless there were Requestor Conditions on the request specifying that the dust jacket be included.
  • If the Dust Jacket was to be included as specified in the Requestor Conditions on the request, the Dust Jacket must meet the same conditions as defined for the cover, below.

Cover:

  • Must both be present (front and back)
    • note that a paperback missing its front cover is usually an illegal, unsold copy
    • "cover" does not = dust jacket. Hardcovers do not need to include their dust jackets to be swapped here.
  • Cover not water damaged (there may be no water damage to any part of the book)
  • Cover not torn or chewed/gnawed
    • some used book stores cut out a small part of the cover; if the amount missing is less than 1 square inch, this is OKAY
    • a small rip (less than 1 inch) in the cover is OKAY
    • yes, that does say "chewed/gnawed" above. That means no pet-chewed (or human-chewed) books.
  • A bookplate inside the cover or on the flyleaf is OKAY 


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