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Subject: Question: Loading Non-Amazon Wi-Fi eBooks Onto a Kindle Fire HD - How?
Date Posted: 7/17/2013 12:10 PM ET
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A few months back we got our first tablet - a Kindle Fire HD. It's a nice little machine, but of course it comes with all the limitations that Amazon has built into it to maximize their book sales. I've tried (and failed) to find out how to load (using wi-fi - not the USB cable) non-Amazon books onto the machine. There are as we all know all kinds of free ebooks available online from the large majority of eLibraries. But I haven't been able to find out whether or not you can load such books onto a Kindle Fire HD without using the USB cable.

The Kindle Forum on Amazon gives me the impression that wi-fi loading for non-Amazon books is possible only if you have one of the older Kindle versions other than the Fire HD. I've posted there and exchanged information, but that's all I get. And though I'm not particularly paranoid I wonder whether that's simply the Amazon party line.

I've exchanged emails with the help desks of two big online libraries and they too seem not to have any solid information on whether or not a Kindle Fire HD can directly load their books. 

I think I understand the differences between book formats that will or won't work on a Kindle and do believe that there are still many non-Amazon freebies out their in a format that the Kindle will play. I've just never found a person who has successfully wi-fi'd non-Amazon eBooks to a Kindle Fire HD. Are any of you out there on PBS?

 



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Date Posted: 7/17/2013 12:52 PM ET
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Can you download the overdrive app on a kindle fire???  IF yes, let me know and we can run a test. Different libraries use different ebook clients so one might work and another might not.   BUT ALL ebooks work with the app designed for that client.  (overdrive being one of them). 

http://omc.overdrive.com/kindle.php    Overdrive does seem to have an app for the kindle fire, see if you can download it. 

But I've not heard of any other way but apps that allow you to download books that aren't from amazon store.



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Subject: Over Drive Does Not Work With Kindle Fire HD
Date Posted: 7/17/2013 2:14 PM ET
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Sorry, Xengab. I tried to download OverDrive but it didn't take. And if you look through the one-star reviews in the Amazon App Store under OverDrive you'll see hundreds of people telling of the same problem. Amazon has done some tricky things to monopolize the business of their Kindle Fire purchasers. Including making sure that KFHD owners can't download OverDrive. It appears that owners of older design Kindles could and still do so.

Date Posted: 7/17/2013 2:42 PM ET
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Well that sucks!  And thankyou, it's good to know as I deal with people/patrons that might run into this issue too.

Date Posted: 7/17/2013 3:21 PM ET
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Question: I have a Nook but I seem to remember this coming up before and the answer being... Go to you public library website and check out an ebook. It should offer you the choice of ePub (Nook) or Kindle. Click Kindle and it should send the book into your Amazon account to download from Amazon onto your Kindle, just like if you had been lent a book from Amazons program. However way you have books you have purchased from Amazon loaded into your Fire , the public library ebooks should be able to do the same.
Date Posted: 7/17/2013 4:00 PM ET
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Nancy- not all books offered as ebooks come as kindle books.    And not all libraries purchase kindle formatted books. 

Date Posted: 7/17/2013 4:02 PM ET
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Go to you public library website and check out an ebook. It should offer you the choice of ePub (Nook) or Kindle. Click Kindle and it should send the book into your Amazon account to download from Amazon onto your Kindle, just like if you had been lent a book from Amazons program. 

I'm pretty sure that this is correct.

I usually get ePub from the library, but accidentally picked "kindle" once and it ended up in my Amazon library. Then I just downloaded it like any other Amazon book.

As for sideloading other books from other sources, sorry can't help. I've never used one so can't say. But there's a youtube video that may help... Here.

 

Date Posted: 7/17/2013 4:24 PM ET
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But thats not what he asked. He didn't want to have it through amazon.  And no not all show kindle or epud.  I'm reading a book at the moment on my smartphone because they don't have it as an kindle book.  1/3 of our ebooks are ONLY epub.

My city library you cannot get any kindle books. they are all epub.

Date Posted: 7/17/2013 6:42 PM ET
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I can understand not wanting to send even more of your stuff through Amazon and get data mined. The only other alternative I can think of is to install Adobe Digital Reader on the Kindle Fire just like you would on a PC. Then check out your books in ePub format and reader them on the Kindle Fire through Adobe (essentially installing a Nook on the Kindle)
Date Posted: 7/17/2013 7:02 PM ET
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Adobe digital reader does not support kindles and does not work on the kindle fire HDs very well.    The kindle fire (without HD) it works on ok, just the HD version doesn't.   (been looking into it).

 

Date Posted: 7/17/2013 7:40 PM ET
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My library uses 3MCloud for lending.  It's an app that I downloaded onto my Nook.  Does 3MCloud work on Kindle Fire HD?

Date Posted: 7/17/2013 10:24 PM ET
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Then you might be screwed.

Date Posted: 7/18/2013 12:18 AM ET
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the kindle usb only won't work for apps either right? I'm thinking my ipad app for kindle. I wish Nook would download like most of the kindle library ebooks - I like that feature where I download the book and it takes me to amazon to pick which kindle I want it sent to...would like to do that with B&N instead of having to mess with that dang adobe stuff or even kobo...amazon is stingy with allowing some competition but so far(crossing my fingers) I've been able to figure their stufrf out the easiest

Date Posted: 7/18/2013 11:29 AM ET
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An ipad app WONT work on any device BUT an IPAD or ipod.     Just like android apps don't work on an ipad.  Different systems.

Date Posted: 7/18/2013 3:52 PM ET
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One thing no one has discussed....using a sync site like Sugarsync, box.com, copy, dropbox. If Robert can download the book to his computer, he can then put it in his sync folder. Then he can go to his sync app of choice on his Fire HD, navigate to the folder, and download it to his Fire. He can then open the book in his favorite reading app, such as Aldiko or Mantano. Of course, this only works with DRM free epubs. In addition, some of the apps I mentioned must be sideloaded to the Fire.

Date Posted: 7/18/2013 7:18 PM ET
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Not sure how that would work with library books, as I need the overdrive and ADR to read those books on my desktop.  But for free books from other sites that might work.

Date Posted: 7/18/2013 8:28 PM ET
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There are library books that are DRM free, and it would work for those.

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Date Posted: 7/18/2013 10:20 PM ET
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http://www.mobileread.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=243

I would suggest trying your question on the kindle fire forum on mobileread

 

Date Posted: 8/9/2013 2:57 PM ET
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Hi,

 I have a Kindle Fire HD.  Our library uses Overdrive for their ebooks. I DO NOT have an Overdrive App on my Kindle HD Fire.  I go to my library, and sign into my Overdrive account.    Then I select a book and check it out.  Then I push the "Download" button, and it asks the format.  I put a check on Kindle Book.  Then I select "confirm and download".  Then I get a new tab, on my computer, that takes my Amazon account.  I click on the tab that says "Get Library Book", and make sure that the book is going to my Kindle Fire (I also have a regular Kindle).  Now I open up my Kindle, and sync it, and the library book is there.  I hope that helps.

Chris