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Subject: Questions about ISBN
Date Posted: 6/12/2009 9:33 PM ET
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I noticed alot of WL'd books do not have complete ISBN numbers.  For example if you  search Jennifer Cruise there is an isbn ISBN-13: 51871 - ISBN-10:   I went to amazon and plugged in 13-51871 - 1 book came back.  How do you know what the full ISBN number?  Are these being entered with an ISBN number?  I am confused -if any one can shed light..it will be appreciated.

Date Posted: 6/12/2009 9:46 PM ET
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The short ISBN's are assigned to a book by PBS when it is entered as not having an ISBN of its own. The only place where they will work to look up a book is on this site. I have had to enter a number of books that way because they came up with  the wrong binding type for the ISBN on them or were just older books.

Date Posted: 6/12/2009 9:50 PM ET
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thanks -- it is very frustrating because there are many books posted that are the same but w/different ISBN.  I am curious do the WL'd stay there - because how can anyone enter w/same ISBN when it was assigned?

Date Posted: 6/12/2009 10:06 PM ET
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If you are the one who orders the book from the first poster and you then repost the book using that ISBN someone could conceivably get it that way. Also I have seen books with short ISBN's that have 2 or even 3 posted into the system at once. So that tells me that someone else had the 'same' book and posted it using the short ISBN. I hope this explanation is coming across clearer to you than me.LOL

Date Posted: 6/12/2009 10:32 PM ET
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It sort of makes sense --  Personally I think that once a book is requested even w/short ISBN - when reposted they should use the one on the book.  - That 's my personal opinion.  thanks for the feedback - appreciated

Date Posted: 6/12/2009 10:32 PM ET
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Some publisher's use the same ISBN number for hardbacks and paperbacks.  Or large print.  Messes up our system.  It is set up to issue a new number when you post a book in a different format.  And sometimes these get used once.  Sometimes reused as there might be alot of copies of the second format.  Like Jennifer Crusie.  Just know that the short numbers are PBS's and not the book's.

To find all the duplicates, search by the title.

Date Posted: 6/12/2009 11:01 PM ET
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Perhaps the problem lies with the fact that the author's correct name is C-R-U-S-I-E, not "Cruise"?

I'd bet her books are there under the correct ISBNs with a search under the correct spelling, but a couple of folks entered her name wrong, thought the books weren't there, so went ahead and posted without an ISBN, as all the short numbers have the wrong spelling.

Recently, I had received a couple of foreign books that had 10 digit ISBN's, but the system would not accept them as valid. I converted them to 13-digit 978 numbers, and they came up in the PBS system right away.

 

 

Date Posted: 6/13/2009 4:45 AM ET
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I do spell her name wrong all the time (LOL),  but when I did a search (with the correct spelling) for all posted books her books came up and when I refreshed it to list  by WL'd   - her books with correct ISBN as well as the short ISBN were listed.  I emailed PBS on another book because it is drivng me crazy and they did not give me a straight ans.  All they would say is the short ISBN is being swapped and mine just has a  dfferent ISBN.  That is correct because the one I posted has the ISBN printed on the book and not the one assigned by PBS.  I was never given the "real" ISBN of the book - it was originally published in 2008 and reprinted in 2009.   How  is the book with the made up ISBN being swapped or future books being posted?   I could understand if I entered in the shorten ISBN and the correct ISBN comes up - but that isn't happening either.  Was it originally entered on a WL w/o an ISBN and then some posted directly to the wishlist ?  I would just like to the understand the process. 

Date Posted: 6/13/2009 6:03 AM ET
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It could be a variety of things.  Someone may have originally tried to post it with a wrong ISBN and had to post it by a PBS ISBN.  It could be that someone got the same title and posted it using the PBS ISBN again although it isn't supposed to be re-used especially if there is an existing correct ISBN. Sometimes search and database have the title wrong, the author wrong or the binding wrong and any of these could mean that it didn't get posted with the correct ISBN so that a PBS ISBN had to be generated.  It's difficult to go back and trace the problem expecially if it's someone other than the first person who used the ISBN.  They and their book are the only one who should be using the PBS ISBN.  No one else is supposed to be using that ISBN to re-post.

Ruth