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Subject: Questions answered in last post, reminders as well
Date Posted: 8/5/2008 12:28 PM ET
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Please keep in mind, its not fair to post looking for wishlist books.  There are some folks on here that have been waiting for books since 2005 to pop up. (Me being one of them. *lol* ) We have had this before where people try to "cut in line" for wishlist books. Thats a no-no for several reasons: I have received several pms asking me about this, so I thought I would just post about it.

1)Others have been wishing for those books for a long time. Its not fair if you get the book before them because you posted for it in the Book Bazaar.

2)We have a wishlist for a reason, its a great way to get those "have to have wishlist books"

3)Its kind of rude to jump in front of other folks.

I can understand if you are looking for deal, say a book deal of Debbie Macomber books, as there are tons in the system. I can see where you wouldnt want to use 3 credits if you can get 3 books for one credit.

If you had a book on your wishlist for a while and you saw someone coming to the Bazaar and reqeusting it, how would you feel? Just something to think about. I know there are wishlist books I just  "had to have" so I ordered them or bought them.

*No I'm not a moderator. No I can't enforce this, all I can do it offer up a suggestion*

 



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Date Posted: 8/5/2008 3:09 PM ET
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Thanks Bernie!

This is one of my pet peeves and often gets me yelled at for pointing it out in the BB Rules. Postage issues has us all wanting to send more books at a time and get more books at a time, but allowing WL books to be asked for and offered in the BB would break down the WL system and we'd end up with behind the scenes bidding wars IMBFO.

Date Posted: 8/5/2008 3:20 PM ET
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Someone has a thread saying she would like the Stephanie Plum books 11, 12 and 13.  Someone else has mentioned that 13 is wishlisted.  But, there are so many editions and formats of this title, not ALL of them are wishlisted; I can order a hardcover copy right now.

So...I think it's easy to get confused.  If she says she's looking for a hardcover copy of Lean, Mean Thirteen and there are copies available...that's legit, right? 

 

Date Posted: 8/5/2008 3:23 PM ET
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Yes, it is. However, if someone were looking for a book that came out last week or comes out next week and there are NO copies in the system and everyone has it wishlisted, that is something different.

Date Posted: 8/5/2008 3:44 PM ET
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Understood. 

 I think it's good to help out new members, because it does take a while to absorb the rules...plus, I've had incredibly positive experiences here.  I would like everyone to have positive interactions too. ;)

I guess my pet peeve is that people don't always make sure the books being asked for are truly wishlisted before they jump on others, especially new members.

Date Posted: 8/5/2008 4:01 PM ET
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I think that alot of us, myself included, forget how many different types of copies can be in the system.  Honestly, unilt you mentined  "Lean 13" was avaibable, I thought it was just a wished look book.

Date Posted: 8/5/2008 4:43 PM ET
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Is it okay to state that we are looking for a particular WL book in ANY condition, meaning I am willing to accept a particular WL book in unpostable condition?

Date Posted: 8/5/2008 4:57 PM ET
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Deanna, I think alot of us would like the same thing. But, it still falls under, "bumping ahead"

The nice thing is most folks will post their damaged wishlist books anyway. :)

Date Posted: 8/5/2008 5:02 PM ET
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Deanna's way has been what people do to get around rule since it does say you can't ask for postable wish list books. Since Bernie's the Boss around here, it would be great to hear her opinion on this one.

As for the WL or not, I know I always check a book before I point the rule out to a poster. If one was in the system I'd probably say "that book is avail in the system under ISBN XXX, otherwise it is wish listed and you might want to get  in line so you can start working your way up." What really annoys me are the ones repeatedly asking for WL books, but never bother to put a single book on their WL.

Date Posted: 8/5/2008 5:10 PM ET
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I'm sorry if I have offended anyone in the past by asking for unpostable WL books.  I didn't see this as jumping line.  Oops, will delete my most recent post!

Date Posted: 8/5/2008 6:05 PM ET
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Deanna, You didn't offend anyone. Don't worry. Everyone has to learn one way or another.  No biggie at all. Keep on posting.

Date Posted: 8/5/2008 6:16 PM ET
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I am one who listed Lean Mean Thirteen as a book I am looking for.  I had no idea that it was a wishlisted book.  I will remove it from my list so as not to cause any problems there and put myself on the wishlist for it.

 

But this leads me to a question....how is one to know when they ask for a book they are looking for if it is a wishlist book?  Also, how does one know if a book they are listing is a WL book?  Or does that matter?

 

I'm fairly new to this site so I am still learning as I go.  If I have done something wrong, I hope someone will PM me and *kindly* tell me what I did and how to fix it.

Date Posted: 8/5/2008 6:43 PM ET
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What I do to find out about wishlisted items is put in a search for it.  If I can't find a copy of the book at all in the club to order right now, I know it's wishlisted.  If I'm wrong about this, I hope someone lets me know!  I've only been a member for about a week.

Date Posted: 8/5/2008 6:50 PM ET
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As far as I know, there are 13 copies of Lean Mean Thirteen in FIFO Lean Mean Thirteen (Stephanie Plum, Bk 13) :: Janet Evanovich  (its on my reminder list)

SInce only the paperback is WL right now, and there are hardcover copies available. I see no reason you'd have to take it off of your post Daphene.



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Date Posted: 8/5/2008 7:02 PM ET
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Sorry, I didn't realize Lean Mean 13 was available already. Not all that long ago I was looking for a copy and saw all Isbns were still WL'ed. I apologize & I edited my post about it.

 

Date Posted: 8/5/2008 7:04 PM ET
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I went ahead and took it off since I really want it in paper back form.  I added it to my wishlist.  I have plenty of time until I get to that book.  It will turn up soon enough.  I think I'm 2 of 2 on the list.  Thanks everyone!

Date Posted: 8/5/2008 7:16 PM ET
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THIS is what I mean about such positive experiences here on PBS!  This thread could have turned mean, and snide and all those "typical" things that tend to happen way too often online.

But it didn't.  I'm so impressed with everyone's politeness, and everyone's commitment to keeping this site functioning in a way that is fair to everyone.

And also...Bernie, I really read your sig "I was walking home one night..." and snorted coffee! LOL...that just cracked me up.  Thanks! ;)

Date Posted: 8/6/2008 2:38 AM ET
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I've never considered requesting an unpostable wishlist book jumping ahead in the line. A while back I used to see a siggy line that said they'd take wishlist books in any condition or something to that effect. I did post a week or so ago about a wishlist book I'm looking for and I don't care the condtion so long as it's readable. I just figured since it can't be posted that some might have a damaged copy they'd like to get rid of. Sorry if I've offended anyone.

Date Posted: 8/6/2008 4:49 AM ET
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I was reading this thread just to catch up on things and read Vicky's last post.......

"And also...Bernie, I really read your sig "I was walking home one night..." and snorted coffee! LOL...that just cracked me up.  Thanks! ;)"

I'm SO glad i wasn't drinking anything.....But l did laugh so hard i nearly peed my pants. It cracked me up too!!

Thank you so much Bernie, I really needed that. Your not only a great PBS helper, your also good for a good laugh!!

And to everyone here, I think you are all Great PBSers!!

Happy reading ya'll!!

Date Posted: 8/6/2008 8:03 AM ET
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Daphne, to find if a book is wishlisted, click on the Search tab, then on Club Wishlist.  You can then type in the title or even a specific ISBN. If it is wishlisted the info will appear, even the number of people on the wishlist for that book.



Last Edited on: 8/6/08 8:28 AM ET - Total times edited: 2
Subject: hi
Date Posted: 8/6/2008 4:04 PM ET
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Just wanted to  say thanks for the help. I now know how to tell if a book is a wish list book. Just by reading. I have a few now that I think is. Not sure they are  not on here no where.  I was thinking... I ordered a book from someone and she said she did not have the book. But it showed that I ordered it. So  it must have went to the next person when I was at work. and now also another person. I have 3 red xxx . its not fair I was not here to get the book I did not request it from 2 other people . How do I get them off there or can I.?? I  did pm this person and told them I  would take  the book so no  more red xxx'S  But I have the book comming now from someone else . And still I will order if it does stop the red xxx's its not fair really I was at work all day. thanks if any one can help.  I really love  pbs. I have  made alot of  friends on here. and alot of my friends  that I got them started  like it. I dont know alot about  anything here. I most of the time  order books  for eveeryone in my family.  Have a gr88 day everyone  .

Date Posted: 8/6/2008 4:21 PM ET
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Bernie,

  Is it ok to list a wl book in bazaar that is not postable even though it may mean someone gets it ahead of another?

Date Posted: 8/6/2008 5:02 PM ET
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With all the rules getting so strict and SOME people being rude and ugly when you post something they don't appreciate  the book baazar is getting to be not worth the time (thankfully everone in thsi post has been sweet). Luckily, people are starting to get kinder about it. There has NEVER been a need to be rude.

Also , the war to get rid of books is getting out of hand, having to do over 5 books for 1 credit is not worth the postage (though I do it sometimes just because I need credits so bad).

What do people think of a cap being put on how many books people can offer for 1 credit???

Thanks for coming back to help Bernie

Date Posted: 8/6/2008 5:38 PM ET
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I don't see taking an unpostable book as jumping ahead, but a postable one yes. Just my opinion.

Date Posted: 8/6/2008 6:05 PM ET
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So if we cannot offer unpostable wishlisted books in the book bizarre, what do we do (what would be acceptable)? I would not post an unpostable book regardless of it's wishlist status. Additionally, I would be upset if I "paid" a credit for a wishlist book and received an unpostable copy. I am just looking for clarification because I am really confused now. I never saw offering/receiving an unpostable wishlist book as jumping the line.

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