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Subject: RC - too pushy?
Date Posted: 8/23/2012 10:46 AM ET
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I was reading another thread that touched on unreasonable requestor conditions, and it made me question my own.   I have the following as my requestor conditions.  Unreasonable on a used book site?  I'd appreciate a second opinion...

 

For hardcover children's books:   I'm not willing to accept library copies or books that have writing/marks on the cover (e.g., that have been colored on or written on) or that have significant damage or tears to the cover (i.e., damage beyond shelf wear or typical signs of use).  My mother saved many of the books I had as a kid, and they've been passed on now to my own children.  I'm hoping to do the same with many of the books in my kids' library... so I'd like to stick to books that are in decent shape.  Thank you for understanding!

Date Posted: 8/23/2012 11:38 AM ET
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I'm of the "whatever you want" camp. If that's what you want, and are not going to be upset by someone occasionally declining your RC (sometimes with an uncalled-for pissy response), then go ahead and use it. I don't see anything unreasonable about it.

I personally feel that the explanation as to why you want the books in that condition is not necessary, since a lot of people that see more than two sentences will automatically decline without bothering to read it. But again; it's your RC and if it's been working for you, no need to change anything.

Date Posted: 8/23/2012 11:46 AM ET
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In my opinion, this is all you need:

For hardcover children's books:   I'm not willing to accept library copies or books that have writing/marks on the cover (e.g., that have been colored on or written on) or that have significant damage or tears to the cover.

Why doesn't matter. I just want to know what you will or will not accept.

Date Posted: 8/23/2012 11:48 AM ET
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I personally don't think its unreasonable (I think you will get a lot of people who will think so though).

BUT, I think you use too many terms that will get the "no subjective RC" people turning you down. "significant damage" "damage beyond normal shelf wear" "typical signs of use" "decent shape" are all things defined differently by different people. I would send to you, but I would only send like new books to you. That may be what you want, but you really should define exactly what it is you want ie - no tears, no stains, no scuffs, etc as people want to be able to look at their book and answer the RC yes or no, not maybe or I think so.

Many people bristle at the phrase "I am not willing to accept". It is what PBS has recommended in the past, but making it softer makes it sound better. "Please no" or something that makes it sound like a request.

I also agree that explanations on why are not really necessary. Sometimes I put it in there if it is a single book situation, but when it sounds like all the books you are requesting are keepers, I'd leave it out, some people don't like that either.

Date Posted: 8/23/2012 11:53 AM ET
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Thanks for the responses!  This was just the kind of advice I was looking for.   I'm going to edit my RC.



Last Edited on: 8/23/12 12:02 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 8/23/2012 12:52 PM ET
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Yes I agree--explanations as to why are not necessary, and subjective statements like "decent shape" or "significant damage to the cover" would have me declining. Your definition of 'significant' and 'decent' could be very different from mine.

I think if you have this attached to every request you will also get some declines for books that are not 'hardcover childrens books'...if I were you I would put this RC only on books that it actually would apply to, just to avoid confusion on the part of people who 1) don't read carefully and 2) decline any request with an RC of any kind.

Cheryl

Date Posted: 8/23/2012 12:57 PM ET
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I agree with the others, your RC is WAY too wordy.  And the phrase 'so I'd like to stick to books that are in decent shape" seems a bit condescending; all books listed need to be in "decent shape" or better to begin with anyway.  I'm sure you'll get more people to accept your RC's by simplifying a bit and getting rid of that phrase.

Date Posted: 8/23/2012 2:15 PM ET
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Thanks everyone!  I edited heavily, and it's a good point to just use it when I'm ordering the type of book I meant it for, so I'll do that as well.

Date Posted: 8/23/2012 2:27 PM ET
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I agree with what Cosi said. The conditions are clear and I would have no problem accepting. The whys just don't matter to me and just make it look (at first glance) that you have more conditions than you do.

Date Posted: 8/23/2012 2:40 PM ET
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Excellent suggestions above.  Brief, avoid any wording that could cause senders to 'bristle', clearly define your book condition requirements, and the why is not necessary.

Hope this helps you get the books you wish!