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Subject: RC - Wanting Like New
Date Posted: 6/22/2009 6:38 PM ET
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Do they not realize this is a trading site.  Although the book is in excellent condition it is used and was used when I got it.  Minor crinkle on the cover so I turned down the request since it was not  "Like New".  If they are going to be this persnickety they are going to lose out on a lot of good books.

Date Posted: 6/23/2009 8:21 AM ET
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I recently got one like this.  The book was a brand spanking new wishlisted hardcover.  I turned them down, because I feel that RC is not in the spirit of this site.

Date Posted: 6/23/2009 9:00 AM ET
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I would have declined as well. 

Date Posted: 6/23/2009 9:40 AM ET
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I generally try to look at Requestor Conditions on a case by case basis. If they're clear and concise and tell me what the person wants, I'll go with it. If they're long, rambling, vague, overly explanatory as to why they need or want this or that, or need additional PMs about the book's condition to clarify, I'll decline. "Like new" is subjective in many cases, but if I can look at a book that I have bought for myself and I know it's only been read once and literally looks new, I have no problem meeting that request. I won't generally accept a request like that if the book is one I got from PBS or other used sources.

You're right in that the person with conditions like that most likely gets turned down very often. Just as PBS gives people the right to set conditions for whatever they want, they give us the power to decline those conditions, so it's always totally up to you. To me, the "spirit of the site" is trading books, any and all books. I have no idea why the person wants like new books, and I don't really care. If my book meets the condition, I'll accept.

Cheryl

Date Posted: 6/23/2009 9:54 AM ET
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What Cheryl said.

Date Posted: 6/23/2009 10:34 AM ET
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Any member demanding that I send a Like New book will be informed (in the nicest way possible) to immediately Kiss My Grits.

Denied.

Go buy it new.



Last Edited on: 6/23/09 10:35 AM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 6/23/2009 1:36 PM ET
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I don't think people who order a book, whether with RCs or not, are "demanding" anything. It's a request. And it certainly is your right to deny any and all RCs if you want. I would never, however, kiss your or anyone else's grits. I hate grits. :o)

Cheryl



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Subject: Sorry, it's my rare PBS hot button issue
Date Posted: 6/23/2009 3:39 PM ET
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How 'bout this:

Any member requesting that I send a Like New book will be informed to try Amazon.com where they can select the best looking used book for often around the same price of a PBS credit.

 

 

 



Last Edited on: 6/23/09 3:41 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 6/23/2009 3:57 PM ET
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How 'bout this:

Any member requesting that I send a Like New book will be informed to try Amazon.com where they can select the best looking used book for often around the same price of a PBS credit.

How about just turning the RC and keeping the opinions and commentary out of it. Offer helpful advice if you have it, turn it down and move on if you don't.



Last Edited on: 6/23/09 3:58 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 6/23/2009 4:04 PM ET
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If a person wishes to request a like new book, that's entirely up to them, you know?  And if someone is going to deny them a book simply because they have a few requests stated, then that's up to them, too.  Every person is allowed to determine their own standards.  Some RCs might be a little insane, but that only means the person stating them is giving up a chance to get a good book that they want.  I've considered putting up an RC that I only want hardback books with their dust covers because I collect them.  I don't care the condition of the book or cover, I just want the dust cover.  But then I consider that some people will turn me down just because I say this. 

Amy
Date Posted: 6/23/2009 4:09 PM ET
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I would probably turn down the RC, as well, but not because it's against the spirit of this website. I've received books in pristine, like-new condition before so I don't doubt that people have like-new books posted.

I don't think you should get your feathers in a ruffle over the RC - just deny it and move on.

Date Posted: 6/23/2009 4:10 PM ET
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Another thing to remember is that people often turn on their RCs for certain books only.  Perhaps this is a series or an author they are collecting and would prefer a certain edition/condition for this particular book. 

Date Posted: 6/23/2009 4:13 PM ET
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How about just turning the RC and keeping the opinions and commentary out of it. Offer helpful advice if you have it, turn it down and move on if you don't.

We've discussed this issue in a couple of threads in this forum. From what I understand now is that those who get turned down actually want an explanation. In fact, if they get declined they want to be able to track down the person who declined and I guess demand a better explanation.

I think what I offered is helpful, Melanie D. If they want a new book, try Amazon.

And to clear up any confusion, I would not actually tell any PBS requstor to Kiss My Grits.

I would definitely think it, though.



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Date Posted: 6/23/2009 4:18 PM ET
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Another thing to remember is that people often turn on their RCs for certain books only.  Perhaps this is a series or an author they are collecting and would prefer a certain edition/condition for this particular book. 

Asking for a specific book with specific cover art is fine with me. I'll even check ISBN numbers, publication dates, and take measurements.

I won't comply with your demand "request" for a new/excellent/perfect/verygood/gift-givable book. 

You'll get PBS standards or better if I have it. Otherwise, I'll tell you to look elsewhere and good luck.

 

Date Posted: 6/23/2009 4:58 PM ET
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We've discussed this issue in a couple of threads in this forum. From what I understand now is that those who get turned down actually want an explanation. In fact, if they get declined they want to be able to track down the person who declined and I guess demand a better explanation.

In all of them I've read, they've wanted explanations on why the book couldn't be sent, not that the sender just thought they were too damn picky and they should settle for whatever you want to give them or they should go elsewhere There are many members on PBS with like new/giftable/ better than PBS standards books that will be more than willing to send them so there is no need to someone to go to Amazon. The only unreasonable quality RC I have ever seen is the person who wanted books that have never been read.

Date Posted: 6/23/2009 7:47 PM ET
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not that the sender just thought they were too damn picky and they should settle for whatever you want to give them or they should go elsewhere 

Every member is entitled to a book that meets all PBS criteria.  If they have higher expectations, then they should politely ask and risk being declined repeatedly, or yes go elsewhere (horrors!).

There are many members on PBS with like new/giftable/ better than PBS standards books that will be more than willing to send them so there is no need to someone to go to Amazon.

Sometimes books in excellent condition are hard to find. There is nothing wrong with going to Amazon or Barnobs or anywhere else. Its not like we're working for Macy's and we're losing sales by sending customers to Gimbels.

Date Posted: 6/23/2009 8:47 PM ET
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In all of them I've read, they've wanted explanations on why the book couldn't be sent, not that the sender just thought they were too damn picky and they should settle for whatever you want to give them or they should go elsewhere.

Well, I'm sure no one appreciates a rude rejection notice.

But from reading the recent threads, I came away with the understanding that some members with RCs want a detailed description of all the flaws which makes the book not meet their conditions. If that isn't offered to their satisfaction, they want "some recourse." I've asked what that might entail, but no one has answered.

Date Posted: 6/23/2009 8:59 PM ET
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from reading the recent threads, I came away with the understanding that some members with RCs want a detailed description of all the flaws which makes the book not meet their conditions. If that isn't offered to their satisfaction, they want "some recourse." I've asked what that might entail, but no one has answered

Yes, that's how I understand it and I've asked the same question regarding "recourse" and all I've heard is cricket, cricket, cricket.

ETA: Actually, I just found out on "Being A Jerk About RCs." 



Last Edited on: 6/23/09 9:16 PM ET - Total times edited: 1