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Subject: Is this a RWAP?
Date Posted: 5/14/2014 5:00 PM ET
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First off, I received this book covered in dirt and spider webs, gross but those cleaned off. Then when I took the book into the other room to put it on my shelf, I noticed in the brighter lighting that the book has some sort of discoloration on it. I know that this can happen sometimes when books get stored in the sunlight for a long period of time, but I'm wondering if maybe it looks more like liquid stain damage. I took some pictures, but the discoloration is so slight that it barely shows up.

Here you can see only if you look at an angle:

http://tinypic.com/r/nx13s2/8

This is the one that's suspicious because it almost looks like whatever it was dripped down the tops of the pages. You can see it better if you enlarge.

http://tinypic.com/r/2ltoy6p/8

This could be my first RWAP and I don't want to do it unless I have to, but I also don't want to pay a credit for something I can't re-post.

Edited to fix the pictures.



Last Edited on: 5/14/14 5:02 PM ET - Total times edited: 2
Date Posted: 5/14/2014 5:28 PM ET
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One of the most reliable ways to determine if there's been liquid damage is that the texture of the paper changes.  It will be stiffer and sometimes a bit rougher than the other paper in the book.  Sometimes looking at the paper in natural sunlight helps.

I can't see liquid damage in the photos, but you may be able to tell by feeling and flipping the pages. 

Date Posted: 5/14/2014 5:29 PM ET
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I'm not seeing any obvious staining either.

Date Posted: 5/14/2014 6:43 PM ET
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I also don't see anything.

My general rule is, if I need to hold it 3 inches away from my face at a certain angle in special light to see the issue ... then there is no issue.

Date Posted: 5/14/2014 7:43 PM ET
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Thanks for the tip, Patty! The damaged pages are definitely stiffer and rougher than the rest of the book.

Sara: The stain isn't showing up in the pictures thanks to the automatic color correction on my camera which I can't figure out how to turn off, but you can plainly see the pinkish yellowing when held at arm's length in regular lighting.

Date Posted: 5/14/2014 9:14 PM ET
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I can see the discoloration, but usually I see wavy pages with liquid damage.  Does the discoloration show on the pages when you open the book, or only on the page edges when it's closed?  You could probably use sandpaper to get rid of the discoloration if it's on the edges only.

Date Posted: 5/14/2014 9:44 PM ET
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The discoloration only appears to be on the outer edges of the pages, but I tried sanding it quite a bit and it's still not going away, though maybe it's a shade lighter. I'm afraid I might damage it if I do too much more. The last 25 pages or so seem to be slightly wavy on the very edges, no further in than 1/4" and you can only see it when you open the book. I have also seen brand new books get wavy pages like that though.

Date Posted: 5/14/2014 9:45 PM ET
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Jessica, would you relist it when you've finished?  If so, no, it's not an RWAP.

Date Posted: 5/14/2014 11:31 PM ET
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Thank you for that! I have had so much stuff going on lately that I haven't had time to stop and think. No I wouldn't repost the book for fear of being RWAP'd myself because the damage is pretty obvious, so I guess that answers that!

Date Posted: 5/14/2014 11:53 PM ET
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I can sort of see something. Maybe?  To be honest, at most this would be a book I might hesitate to repost, but I wouldn't mark it RWAP. I do believe there is a gray area.

Date Posted: 5/15/2014 4:04 PM ET
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caviglia: That was what I ended up doing. I started to fill out the RWAP form twice, but it didn't feel right doing it since the damage is so slight. So I accepted the book, but I will not be posting it back into the system since I don't put grey area books on my shelf. Instead I'll offer it free with the rest of the series.

Thanks for all the responses!

Date Posted: 5/15/2014 7:54 PM ET
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Jessica, that is an outstanding attitude, and a terrific idea.  Kudos and good karma on you.  :)