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Subject: Really wrong reason...
Date Posted: 8/1/2010 11:26 PM ET
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I just got an email from PBS about a book that was posted and it was on my wishlist, I accepted it...and now the person can't mail it because "they are selling/trading it to someone else"? WTH? Is that possible? Thanks a lot~!!  Pretty soon every deal on here will be some WL mutliples only or special thing for WL books and no one will post books like normal anymore...GRRRR....sorry fro the vent...I had been waiting awhile for it....

 

And it seems every book people want from me lately has restrictions on it...Please people these are used books...if you want them like new buy them from PBS Market!



Last Edited on: 8/1/10 11:38 PM ET - Total times edited: 2
Date Posted: 8/1/2010 11:40 PM ET
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Sorry you received such a crass pm Kim.  Is that the official reason given for the cancelled transaction?  Most members have posted a book, then afterwards realized it's unpostable and had to cancel the transaction.  But to commit a postable book to FIFO, then give it to someone else entirely it just rude.

By posting to FIFO the terms of membership should apply (ie book is postable & member will mail to requester in a timely manner).    I don't usually recommend referring every little disappointment to TPTB, but  might consider it in this case. 



Last Edited on: 8/1/10 11:40 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 8/2/2010 9:23 AM ET
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Yes, it was the official reason.......that is why I was floored! You could of at least lied to me, lol!

Date Posted: 8/2/2010 10:03 AM ET
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Not to defend the other person-but they may have posted the book on here a week ago and it kept timing out and in frustration they put it up somewhere else.  I had one go through 5 wishers recently and I put it up on another site and it was gone within an hour.  But I waited until the pending WL hold had timed out.  A new member might not have known to check if a book was WL before posting it on multiple sites.  If they cancel a lot for this reason they'll get a reprimand from PBS. 

Date Posted: 8/3/2010 12:58 PM ET
Member Since: 6/23/2010
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A 48 hour wait for response in "these days" of real time data is tooooooooo long.  24 hours is plenty.  You snooze; you loose. If people knew they had to check their accounts more often or loose a book, they would get with the program.  If I give my students a week to complete an assignment, most of them take a week to finish it.  If I give them the same assignment due in 3 days, guess what ?, they finish it in 3 days.  48 hours says, "checking on wish list books is not a big deal". =) and, LOL, yes, I do have a life outside of PBS.

Date Posted: 8/3/2010 1:03 PM ET
Member Since: 9/13/2007
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Believe it or not, but some people still do not have access to a computer on a daily basis. The system is set up by the site owners so that it is possible for people who don't have constant access to a computer can still participate. I don't have a problem with this. Even in this day and age people need to be able to deal with the fact that not everything can happen instantaneously. 

Date Posted: 8/3/2010 6:57 PM ET
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I had to give a similar reason for a book once... to explain: I tend to look on Amazon to see if my books are worth their fees to sell before I post them here. But when a book is worth selling, I still post it here. I happened to post a book on Amazon and here simultaneously. Now books on Amazon don't always sell right away, and sometime the other people selling undercut your price by 25 cents or dumb crap like that. And Amazon is easy to cancel with no fees, unlike eBay. So I was perfectly willing to post it, then it happened to be a WL book, timed out the first one then while I was waiting in the 2nd person.. it was in book limbo, couldn't cancel my offer before they accepted the WL offer! That thing sold on Amazon for $7!! This crappy fantasy from 15 years ago that hadn't seen the light of day in years... so yes I sold that thing on Amazon and sent a PM to the WLer once they had accepted it. Much more contrite than the one you got. But that was my legitimate story of the same thing happening to me!

Date Posted: 8/3/2010 7:22 PM ET
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Wow, I'd have sent in feedback to the team for that.  If you want to sell your books, fine.  But don't post them on PBS also.  It's easy to check and see if they are on WL here.

Date Posted: 8/3/2010 7:31 PM ET
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By posting them on here you are saying you want to post them out. NOT just having another way of getting rid of them.  I see it as being dishonest because someone is missing out on a book you promised to them.  Either post it on amazon, ebay, bookmoch whatever OR post it here. Not both, its not fair to either site.

You even have to click "I can send this book" when posting it. Why not try posting it somewhere else for a a time and then post it here if it does not swap/sell.

Date Posted: 8/3/2010 7:34 PM ET
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You guys think so? I may re consider. That's the only one I had a problem with. Cause when I post the book I can swap it. THAT book just happened to be one I could NOT cancel. Why can't we cancel a book that way?

Date Posted: 8/3/2010 7:38 PM ET
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The below is from the Terms of Use, that every member has to agree to to have a membership here at PBS:

4. Listing or Posting
By listing or posting items for selection by the exchange community, you aver that you are the sole owner of the items and have the unrestricted right to transfer ownership thereof. By posting or listing an item for exchange with the Site, you agree to ship the item when requested. The posting or listing of items without the intention of exchanging them when requested is expressly prohibited and may constitute wire or mail fraud in violation of U.S. and state law. The listing or posting of items for exchange that you do not have in your physical possession is expressly prohibited.

Date Posted: 8/3/2010 7:41 PM ET
Member Since: 2/21/2009
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I've run across many members that have their books on more than one site (and several have that  information in their profile as well). I understand the frustration if a book isn't available, but on the other hand, the members I have seen have so many books that I appreciate them being here, and with the quantities they apparently list, I doubt it's one at a time, but perhaps the "file" listing I've seen mentioned, which probably makes it more difficult to ascertain if it's a WL book.

That said, the PM was a bit funky (like Kim said, unless I knew up front that's a possibility, I'd rather be lied to, lol!)

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Last Edited on: 8/3/10 7:54 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 8/3/2010 7:46 PM ET
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Ok so that obligates me to remove the listing else where should it be requested. And if it was stuck in a WL loop I would have to wait until the list is exhausted, being a state of not requested. Is there something that also says I couldn't post simultaneously? I don't want to disobey rules, but I didn't interperate that Term of Use the same way.

Date Posted: 8/3/2010 7:50 PM ET
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Think of it this way. You go out for dinner, choose your meal, get told it will be ready in 10mins and then the chef comes and tells "you sorry I gave it to another couple because they paid me more for it."
At least check if a book is WL BEFORE posting it elsewhere.  

Date Posted: 8/3/2010 7:54 PM ET
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Definitely, for all future books!