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Subject: Remainder marks on PBS Marketplace Books
Date Posted: 8/31/2014 3:23 PM ET
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Now I understand that often when buying books way below suggested retail they may have a remainder mark.  I recently bought 3 books from the PBS Marketplace (I like to support PBS) that had horrible RED remainder marks. One particularly looked bad.  I never had this when purchasing books from PBS before. Is this new?  I paid a small amount for them but I also paid a credit, shipping plus a fee for them.  I feel as though I may have to explain to the person when I repost them that I actually got them NEW from the PBS Marketplace, I know remainder marks are allowed to post..  I think if I had waited in line with my 1 credit, I would have received a nicer looking copy.  I certainly wouldn't give them as a gift.  My point here is I think the PBS Marketplace books should mention whether or not they have a remainder mark so PBS members could choose whether they want them.



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Date Posted: 8/31/2014 3:39 PM ET
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OK I just found the information about Overstock vs Brand New.  Wish I had known about this.  I did notice though if you are just selecting the book to purchase from your Wishlist or catalog page it doesn't say Overstock.  The only way you'd know that is to actually go to the marketplace and browse the Overstock section at the bottom as far as I can see.  The under $5 rule doesn't actually apply.  I saw some $7.00 +.

What is the difference between Overstock books and Super Sellers in the Market?

The PBS Market is the section of our site where you can get NEW books at super-reduced prices - and  you can use a PaperBackSwap Book Credit to pay for part of the cost of a book!

The books come from two different sources:

  • Overstock books are NEW (never owned) but can have remainder marks since they are overstock. They can be very inexpensive (very often less than five dollars) and they ship 3-5 business days after you place your order, so they should get to you within 10 days.
  • Super Sellers are BRAND NEW (no remainder marks - these are fresh from the publisher) and they can have longer shipping times.  They come to us from the publisher and we check them and remail to you.  So you should allow 3-4 weeks to receive your Super Seller. 


Last Edited on: 8/31/14 4:13 PM ET - Total times edited: 3
Date Posted: 8/31/2014 7:20 PM ET
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Reminder marks are postable.

Date Posted: 9/1/2014 1:03 AM ET
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Yes, remainder marks are postable, but this is not the core issue. In this particular case the remainder markings were done so poorly that a member is not sure whether the book is re-postable without having to contact requestors with a note regarding remainder markings and their resulting disfiguration.

Having a requirement in PBS Marketplace that books bearing remainder marks be noted as having them is reasonable. The notation need not be a detailed description of the marks, but simply an acknowledgement that they are present.

Date Posted: 9/1/2014 11:22 AM ET
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It's very unlikely that they will mark books as having remainder marks, as all copies may not have them; and as we all know, PBS has no way to indicate notes on a single copy of a book. 

Date Posted: 9/1/2014 12:13 PM ET
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Actually I'd be happy if at this point you could just see that it was an Overstock book vs a Brand new book when you put it in your cart.  I can buy overstock books at Dollartree for $1 plus 7 cents sales tax most have no marks.  I also don't mind remainder marks that are a black dot or a black line through the UPC code but a 2 inch RED permanent marker on the side of the book is a different story.  Thanks for understanding Chris.

Date Posted: 9/1/2014 12:44 PM ET
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When you point at the Buy This New button, it shows one of the following messages; so you can see if it is an Overstock book vs a Brand new book before you add it to your cart.

Buy this NEW overstock book from PaperBackSwap and help support the club!

Buy this brand NEW book from PaperBackSwap and help support the club!

Date Posted: 9/2/2014 10:07 AM ET
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Thanks Jean

Date Posted: 9/2/2014 1:19 PM ET
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Lines across the whole edge of the book are a common way to make remainder marks. Most of the overstock books I purchase have lines across the whole book edge on the bottom.

I thought your marks must be unusual for you to remark on them. Do you mean it's on the cover? (Not that it would matter, writing on the cover is postable).

A single line on the book is a completely normal remainder mark.