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Subject: Replacing hard copy book with an electronic one
Date Posted: 11/18/2010 3:08 PM ET
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I've been thinking that I might start replacing some of my keeper books with kindle e-books.  Cost wise.. it would have to be done slowly.  However, there's this little voice saying,  "hmmmm you've got the hard copy, what if something happens to Amazon (kindle)?"   I have plenty of storage space..but as I get older it's harder to look thru the boxes. 

Has anyone started doing this?

 

Margy

Date Posted: 11/18/2010 3:17 PM ET
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Not yet but am planning on doing so as my keeper "shelf" is getting larger.  Have a nook on my Christmas list and have told my DH I will buy one myself if I don't get it by my birthday (which is January).  I am with you Margaret...will have to be done slowly due to cost.  Can you back your Kindle up on a hard drive or small jump-drive.  That may solve your fear of losing things that are just electrons.

Date Posted: 11/18/2010 3:58 PM ET
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I hope this isn't hijacking, since it pretty much fits with the OP, but I have a question.  I too am thinking of getting a kindle (well hubby may get it for me) for Christmas.  I went ahead and downloaded the Kindle for PC app, so I can go ahead and download the free books.  When/if I get a kindle, can I then download those books onto the kindle?

Date Posted: 11/18/2010 4:50 PM ET
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You should be able to, the kindle books are supposed to be easily sharable over all your devices.  And when my husband hooked up his Kindle, he had archived copies of everything he had previously gotten onto his iPod for me.

Date Posted: 11/18/2010 6:22 PM ET
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Date Posted: 11/18/2010 7:37 PM ET
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The only problem with Kindle books is that you really can't put them on any other ereader.  Eventually your Kindle is going to die, all electronics do.  Unless you buy another Kindle, you may not be able to transfer your Kindle books to another ereader should you decide to get a different kind.  I'm fairly sure the majority of Kindle books are DRMed.

Date Posted: 11/18/2010 7:45 PM ET
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If you plan on doing that, I suggest you get them in a format that doesn't lock you into just one reader.  

Aren't most of the ereaders out there going to ePub and pdf now?

Date Posted: 11/18/2010 8:48 PM ET
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Date Posted: 11/18/2010 9:36 PM ET
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"the kindle books are supposed to be easily sharable over all your devices"

Just to clarify, I meant all devices with a Kindle app. I was just reading that you can start a book on your kindle and then pick up on your iPod, which I think is an awesome feature. Except for the part where I don't like the Kindle. :-(

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Date Posted: 11/19/2010 1:14 PM ET
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Most of the nook books also have DRM (digital rights management) on them. So they are not usable on other readers directly, just like the kindle.

Both the kindle and the nook save your library of books you got from thier site so you can reload to whatever device you want that they support.  They both offer reading apps on the iphone, ipad, pc, etc.  They are very comparable. 

If you buy books from other sellers you just have to get the format that is compatible with your reader.  A lot of sites are going to offer the kindle format and the nook format.  If it is in a format that your reader doesn't support and it does not have DRM you can convert it.  For Kindle you can email it to your Kindle account and they will convert it for you.  They do charge about 15 cents if you want it delivered wirelessly, nothing if you get it wifi or sideload.  If you want to convert it yourself and save the books to your computer a lot of people mention using the software Calibre for that.  I have not used it cause getting directly from Amazon is so easy.  (I suspect the nook is just as easy for books from B&N)

If you are getting books from a public library, they most likely have DRM on them and so the reader that supports the format your library provides is probably better.

mobileread.com is a site that has lots of info on ereaders if you are interested. 

Date Posted: 11/19/2010 8:08 PM ET
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I've downloaded a lot of Nook books, both free and ones I've paid for.  I think I've only run into DRM on one of them.

You can strip the DRM on EPUB books anyway.

Date Posted: 11/19/2010 10:44 PM ET
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I'm dreading the cost but I'm thinking along the same lines as EveDallas - my eyes just ain't what they used to be.

Date Posted: 11/19/2010 11:19 PM ET
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To answer the original question:  Yes I have started replacing my keeper books with Kindle versions.  I have been trying to declutter a lot of things in my life and the books are an excellent start.  I have just recently started this and have managed to clear off several bookshelves.  Whenever I get enough credits, I sell a batch in the bazaar for an Amazon gift card and get some more books for my Kindle.  This makes it a little easier to get books that I essentially already own.  (I don't feel so guilty about it.) The good part is that I can then post the book and get more credits...to sell in the bazaar and get more ebooks.

In addition to the decluttering aspect, I also really like to convenience of having multiple books available to read at any given time (I read pretty quickly, so this saves me from having to carry several books around.)

Date Posted: 11/19/2010 11:24 PM ET
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I'm dreading the cost but I'm thinking along the same lines as EveDallas - my eyes just ain't what they used to be.

Yes, it is *very* nice on the eyes. Tonight I felt like a nice quick HP and started an old one... and the tiny print and brown paper was such a turn-off. And then I remembered my husband had loaded an HP onto the Kindle for me. So much better!

Date Posted: 11/19/2010 11:57 PM ET
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Date Posted: 11/20/2010 2:50 PM ET
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I don't think I'll do this, because I tend to want to reread favorite sections. I could search for them and mark them, I suppose, but the skimming is so much a part of the experience. I'll often go sit on the floor near one of my keeper bookcases and just skim a favorite book or two for awhile before bed.

But I think I would love to read most categories this way, and not have to worry about getting rid of them after I'm done with them! When I have some free time, I'm going to try to load up a bunch of HPs on my TBR and get rid of the dead tree version.

Date Posted: 11/20/2010 5:52 PM ET
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I just had a brainstorm! I have an enormous P.G. Wodehouse collection and a lot of those are in the public domain now. Agatha Christie's older books too, I bet. And the Scarlet Pimpernel. I can clear out some dead tree books after all!

Date Posted: 11/20/2010 11:09 PM ET
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I can't do it.  I would miss my books too much. 

Best advantage of reading regular books.  When you drop them, they don't break, you just lose your place, unless you happen to drop them in the bath tub while you are reading (I tend to do that a lot.

Date Posted: 11/20/2010 11:54 PM ET
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Willa for whatever reason Agatha Christie's aren't in teh public domain yet..I was looking for them and wish they were LOL! but I was suprised at how many really good ones are. A friend of minelikes wodehouse..isn't that the british author? seems like that's the name...

Date Posted: 11/21/2010 2:09 AM ET
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Quite honestly, it's the difference between having an Ipod and having to own the CD or  Netflix streaming/DVR/Tivo and owning the DVD. You're either open to electronic media or you're not.

Date Posted: 11/21/2010 2:22 AM ET
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Susanna, two of her books are, but no more. The Disney corporation got copyright law changed so they wouldn't lose the rights to Micky Mouse and so the books that *should* be in the public domain now won't be til 2016, IIRC -- and of course, they'll just use their clout to get it extended again then. !@##$@! DIsney! And I say that as a shareholder.

Date Posted: 11/21/2010 5:23 AM ET
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yeah sucks don't it?! I think the Little Houseon the Prairie books will be tied up a while as well. I'm surprised the wizard of oz books are included in the freebies! I was bummed 'bout Agatha Christie - she's one I wanted to download when I first got my ereader..actually checked into it when I started doing the audio downloads and only saw a couple.

Date Posted: 11/21/2010 1:49 PM ET
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Anything before around 1922 stayed in the public domain -- the Oz books are earlier than that, or most of them anyway. Yeah, I was bummed that it was only 2 Christies. Honestly, I've read her books so many times I may never read them again but they're such a part of my life, I *have* to have them. Putting them on the Kindle is such a great way to still have them without having to give them houseroom.

It's annoying too that not everything that can be has been put out by project gutenberg yet. Like only two of the doctor dolittle books. Maybe I should look into volunteering with them. I have quite a collection of classic children's books.

Date Posted: 12/6/2010 5:46 PM ET
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I am slowly buying my keeper books on kindle-however I have a pet peeve against ebooks that cost more than paperbacks!

I am on a budget and if the e-book is more expensive than a paperback, I still trade for  or keep the paperback.

I prefer the kindle to paperbacks, but when I can buy or trade a paperback for a couple dollars it doesn't make

sense for me to buy the book on kindle  (A good example of this is Nora Roberts -Bride Quartet-I traded for the books here because the kindle

format is 9.99 but the paperback is only 6.99).  Right now my eyes are still good-hopefully my keeper books will eventually go on sale in the kindle format!

Date Posted: 12/9/2010 1:45 PM ET
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I have also switched some of my "keeper" shelf to ebooks....however I chose to go with other vendors (not amazon and B&N) because I like that if I buy an ebook from someplace like www.mybookstoreandmore.com I can save it to a thumb drive.  It's still available on my personal "bookshelf" on their website,  but it's also downloadable, so I have the security of knowing that no matter if their website goes away, I'll still have access to the book I paid for.  I read ebooks mostly on my iphone and an old PocketPC, which can handle just about any format of books...if I were to upgrade, I would totally go for the iPad, so as to not be locked into one format...ie: the Kindle or the Nook.  On the iPad you can have the Kindle App AND the Nook App, plus 3 or 4 others, best of all worlds, it's just that you have to pay for that convenience.  ;  )



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