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Subject: Request turned down because it has water spot
Date Posted: 1/20/2010 11:46 PM ET
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I received a notification today from the "Librarian" that a member whose book I requested turned down that request because "there is a water spot on the table of contents page."  It is my understanding that ANY book with water damage of ANY kind is not postable on PBS.  I was going to message this person and let them know that, but there is no way to contact them, as no name was mentioned in the notification.  I looked in my transaction archives and it wasn't there either. 

Should I somehow notify PBS of this so that they can contact this person?

TIA for your help.

Date Posted: 1/21/2010 12:04 AM ET
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I think they already know it, which is why they turned your request.  It sounds to me that once they got the request, they inspected the book and found the water spot damage.  There is no way to know if they missed it when they first posted the book or if the damage took place in the interim, but either way, they did the right thing. 

Date Posted: 1/21/2010 6:44 AM ET
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Exactly what Ray said. They may have posted the book, you requested it, and on their last inspection noticed the water damage so they declined the request. I've had that happen before--books that were fine when I posted them acquired a stain or some clumsy oaf (er...me!) spilled on it. If she never accepted your request to begin with, that transaction won't show up in your archives--only if she had accepted and then cancelled after that.

Cheryl

Date Posted: 1/21/2010 8:00 AM ET
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That has happened to me as well...I posted something honestly thinking it looked postable and then when it finally got requested I checked it again and found something wrong. 

Date Posted: 1/21/2010 8:24 AM ET
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I always pull the book and check it out before I accept a request for just this reason. 

Date Posted: 1/21/2010 8:50 AM ET
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Date Posted: 1/21/2010 9:33 AM ET
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Nancy, where it would be a situation when you should probably pass it on to the PBS team is if you had mentioned water damage in an RC - which *should* be totally unecessary, but some people do - and this person declined the transaction due to the RC.  Then you could be pretty certain they don't know they aren't supposed to send books with water damage.  This sounds more like something they missed and only found when they double-checked the book before accepting, which is a good thing.  I've heard of many people reading & then shelving a new book, only to discover some kind of damage to it when they pull it for a request.

Subject: is this allowed?
Date Posted: 1/21/2010 9:35 AM ET
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New here so curious about the water spot. 

Is there a way to pm the requestor and let them know that the book has a water stain?  I am talking about something light, not a whole book or several pages that got wet.  I personally wouldn't reject a book for a small stain, especially if it a book I have been wanting and can't find.  There are some books out of print that I would accept in what is an unpostable shape just to have it.

Janette

Date Posted: 1/21/2010 9:45 AM ET
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Janette,

If there is a water stain, no matter how small, the book should not and can not be posted.  It can be offered either for credit or as a freebie in the Bazaar.  If it is a WL book, then it should be snapped up pretty quickly in the bazaar.

Subject: thanks, another question
Date Posted: 1/21/2010 3:07 PM ET
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 "no matter how small, the book should not and can not be posted"

 

another question; would a few drops of water from a glass be considered a water stain?  I often have a drink nearby due to dry mouth (from meds).  Condensation can cause water beads to drip off and sometimes I am so deep into the book I don't think about it as I take a drink.  Then, I see a drop of water on my book and immediately dab it, and blow on it to dry it.

Would that be considered a water stain?  I know my question may sound silly, but I don't want to send a book that is unpostable to the site but to me is of no importance.  I've dropped an inkpen on a book and had it make a small line or one of my dogs comes in and shakes him/herself and drops of water can go flying and a few get on the page I am reading. 

When I think of water stains, I am thinking of a glass of something spilled nearby, it runs and some gets on the book.  I am VERY careful around my books, more careful with them than I am with my computer, sad to say.   But accidents can happen and I don't want to send a book that to me I would have no problem receiving  but someone else would see it as unacceptable.

We are dealing with used books, even if we take care of our books there is going to be some wear and tear on them.

I am just wanting to understand the guidelines, so I am seeking clarification, not debating the right or wrongness of them. 

If the guidelines state, for example that a book that has an ink mark on it is unpostable, then okay, I won't post it.  I may think it is silly, but that is the rules/guidelines so I will abide by them.

Janette

Date Posted: 1/21/2010 3:32 PM ET
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Droplets don't often leave any permanent damage.  If it's something that soaks into the page & can't just be wiped or blotted off, you can put folded paper or cardstock between the pages & lightly weight it down, and that will usually be sufficient to absorb any moisture.  If it's just water & you get to it right away, it's not likely to stain, like coffee or tea, for example.  Marks from a dropped pen can usually be lightly sanded off.  As long as it's not fountain ink or something that gets absorbed into the paper.  If you can clean it off, it's no longer there, & the cleaning process hasn't caused any damage, it should be fine.

Date Posted: 1/21/2010 9:12 PM ET
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sorry, posted in the wrong topic



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Date Posted: 1/21/2010 9:32 PM ET
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Maybe they should have wrapped it in plastic before they put in on their bookshelf :P

 

( Sorry, just in a mood and couldn't resist)

Date Posted: 1/21/2010 9:33 PM ET
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Thanks,

Honestly, if I spilled tea (can't stand the taste of coffee :) ) then I wouldn't consider it post worthy.  I am not so particular, depending on how bad it is (if bad, I just replace my book)  but many others are and having worked with people in sales before, many expect to get more than they deserve.  Not all, but  many do. 

Usually the ones who get "soiled" are my keepers, I re-read them so often they can't miss getting a spot here or there.  After several years, some of my books look well read, LOL.  Since I wouldn't even consider letting them go, that isn't a problem. 

TBR pile and ones I didn't like (which are what I am sending in)  are kept separate to keep clean. 

I have to admit that I never thought about mold, I have never had to deal with it so it never came to mind.  I'll double check any books I have set aside to make sure there are no water spots or other stains and no ink marks. 

 

Thanks for the help.  I will be reading more in the help area to learn more.

 

Janette

Date Posted: 1/21/2010 10:05 PM ET
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This person accepted my request and then cancelled, saying that they read my RC and decided that the water stain on the table of contents didn't meet my conditions.

This is why I asked.  She obviously doesn't know that any water-stained books aren't postable.