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Subject: my requester conditions.. a question :)
Date Posted: 9/24/2008 10:10 AM ET
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Good morning!

I've been a member for about a month or so now, and in swapping found a couple of requester conditions that seemed to make sense to me, so I added them to my requeser conditions. I've had a few transactions for my wishlist books where they've been declined because of those conditions. These are what I've got as conditions:

Books must be mildew free (that musty book stink--makes me sneeze!).

Books must not be excessively written in (name inside cover is ok) or highlighted.

I guess my question is, are these too wierd for requests, or do conditions just get an automatic 'nope, not gonna deal with conditions, I'll decline' response from some? I don't care about marks through the bar code, or a slightly cat chewed cover. (they're gonna get chewed once they get here, what's the difference ;)  I just want reable books that don't make me sneeze. :)  Should I just take the conditions out?

Regards, and happy fall!

Jen

 

Edit: Thank you all for your responses. :) They make good sense. I've removed both of my requestor conditions.



Last Edited on: 9/24/08 7:19 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 9/24/2008 10:18 AM ET
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Smells will get you denied more often. Some people just won't risk you having a more sensitive nose than them.

Date Posted: 9/24/2008 10:24 AM ET
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That's fair. :) What about the writing one?

Jen

Date Posted: 9/24/2008 10:25 AM ET
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The smell ones are too subjective.  All books smell funky to me.  Some people turn down any RCS because they're worried about getting dinged for some minor flaw.   If an RC seems too picky or subjective-I turn it down. I'd rather wait for the next request. Especially if it's a WL book.

Date Posted: 9/24/2008 10:31 AM ET
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Okie dokie. I've taken out the smell one. whee! :)

Jen

Date Posted: 9/24/2008 10:46 AM ET
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and writing or highlighting in the books is against the rules (unless it is a textbook)

Date Posted: 9/24/2008 10:48 AM ET
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Jen, I would probably decline to send you books based on those RCs. We are not supposed to list books that are mildewed and if you just mean musty smelling, well, what's musty smelling to you may be just normal old book smell to me. I wouldn't want to risk it. I see you have already decided to remove that condition. About the writing one, it's the same thing. Names in books or dedications are ok to post but writing, underlining, highlighting are already covered and if someone sent you a book like that you should mark RWAP. I don't like when I receive RCs that are basically just a repeat of the conditions already in place on the board. Now, that's just me. Once I sent a book to someone with a RC like that and I was on pins and needles until it was received and accepted and I decided that I just wasn't going to deal with that again. Now if you have an RC that goes above and beyond what is acceptable to post on the site, then I say go for it. Otherwise, take your chances and if you receive something that shouldn't have been posted in the first place, deal with as outlined by the site rules.

HTH

susan/vt

Date Posted: 9/24/2008 12:06 PM ET
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About the wording of the writing requirement, I tend to notice word order stuff and would turn it around instead of sticking "or highlighted" on the end.

Instead of "Books must not be excessively written in (name inside cover is ok) or highlighted." I would say, "Books must not be highlighted or excessively written in (name inside cover is ok)." Or is it, "Books must not be excessively highlighted or written in ...  Of course, you will likely get people arguing with you about how much writing is "excessive".

But actually I agree that you may as well say, "I am only willing to accept books that meet PBS requirements for posting." or "If your book does not meet PBS posting requirements, please don't send it."

When I was new, I thought I would want a RC about smoke, but then I read in the forums about people generally refusing because of ANY condition and being very analytical about the wording of conditions so I decided not to turn my RC on and just see what happened. So far, I have had very few books that have disappointed me and have decided to leave it that way rather than risk someone declining to send to me by putting them on.

 



Last Edited on: 1/23/09 9:44 PM ET - Total times edited: 3
Date Posted: 9/24/2008 12:07 PM ET
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The only RCs I personally will deal with are smoke odor- I don't smoke and have a sensitive nose myself so I never pick up used books where that's an issue- or very straightforward, black-and-white conditions like "no former library copies." Once conditions start getting subjective, like "not too much wear" or some such, I won't send the book, unless that particular copy happens to be in uread condition. It's just too risky from my POV.

Date Posted: 9/24/2008 12:50 PM ET
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Awesome! Thank you all for the responses. They make good sense. I think I will just leave off all conditions.

Regards,

Jen

Date Posted: 9/24/2008 1:20 PM ET
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Date Posted: 9/24/2008 2:15 PM ET
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but when I read RC's that are basically what PBS has set as the minimum standard, I have to wonder why this person reiterated them.  In all honesty, it shouts "picky" to me. 

 

Or maybe a chip on their shoulder?  A book requested from me last week came with an RC that basically said "Don't send crappy books." It irritated the hell out of me when I saw it, and my first inclination was to decline. But my book was in like new condition, so I sent it.

But as for your second condition about writing and highlighting, you might consider turning it off or on, depending on what you're requesting. I have a "please no highlighting or writing on text pages" RC that I turn on when I order a book that might have been used as a textbook (critical editions of classics, for instance). I know that the rules say the sender should contact me, but I have never been contacted that a book has these markings. After going through the RWAP process a few times, I decided to be proactive and add the RC. I get turned down a lot when I use it, and snarky comments about my RC are not uncommon. But on the plus side, everyone who accepted the RC has sent books that met the condition.

Date Posted: 9/24/2008 3:35 PM ET
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I agree that "smell" conditions are subjective, especially "musty", since I think a lot of old books smell musty but don't actually smell moldy.  However, I don't think it's wrong to remind people that books with writing on text pages are not postable.  If people are posting books they haven't read this might prompt them to page through the book to see if there is writing (yes, somthing they should do anyway, but out of the dozen or so "unpostable" books I've received here, the majority were because they had writing in them--so I think it's commonly missed.)

It's true that you can mark RWP and ask for your credit back, but apparently many times the other member won't return it--it's easier to prompt them to check the book before sending.  On the other hand, there are the people who routinely turn down all requestor's conditions, so in the end you'll probably come out about even if you have the condition or not!

Date Posted: 9/24/2008 5:01 PM ET
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Matt C. (mattc) - ,
Date Posted: 9/24/2008 5:04 PM ET
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The smell one did seem a bit subjective.  I give books a sniff before I send them, and don't post mildewy ones at all...but all books smell a little, even if it's just from glue/ink/whatever.

As for the writing...does that include anything on the inside cover?  I have a number of books with not only a name, but a large store stamp, which I personally think is bad advertising, but not uncommon.



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Date Posted: 9/24/2008 7:28 PM ET
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As for the writing...does that include anything on the inside cover?  I have a number of books with not only a name, but a large store stamp, which I personally think is bad advertising, but not uncommon.

The writing and stamps you describe on the inside cover are generally okay.

However, writing and/or underlining on text pages and/or using a highlighter on text pages is not allowed -- with the exception of textbooks, where it IS allowed IF the requester agrees to the condition of the book.

 

 

Matt C. (mattc) - ,
Date Posted: 9/24/2008 8:07 PM ET
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I understand the PBS rules, I was asking about the RC.