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Subject: Requestor Conditions - yet another vent.
Date Posted: 6/1/2016 2:50 PM ET
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No point to this post, just felt like venting. I just posted a WL book, only to get the following RC.

.Please don't send a book if you have cats in your home b/c I'm allergic. If the book is used, please send. If it's a library book, PM to see if I still want it. Thank you.

The book is a used paperback, in really nice condition, not ex-library, but, I still declined the request. It just rubbed me the wrong way...."PM me to find out if I still want it"...nope, not gonna happen. Firstly, I can't PM you until I accept the request, then what, you expect me to wait on a reply and then what, I get to describe the condition the book it in (if it was ex-library), and you can decide whether to accept or decline the offer.  If it had been "if it is a ex-library book, please decline", I would have marked that my book met the RC condition (Maybe LOL).

As it was, it was just easier to mark that my book did not meet the RC conditions, the offer rolled over to the next wisher, who conveniently had the book on auto-request. It is now packaged, addressed, and will be in the mail within an hour.



Last Edited on: 6/1/16 3:13 PM ET - Total times edited: 3
Date Posted: 6/1/2016 3:15 PM ET
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I never accept RCs which require me to PM them first.  Too many possiblities for misunderstandings.  I will send the book if it meets your RC, any kind of doubt or PMing. Not gonna happen.  So not worth losing a credit or getting RWAPd.

Date Posted: 6/1/2016 4:34 PM ET
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Why should you PM to "see if they want it?" I consider a request for a book as WANTED. Period. I mean, they either requested it actively or it came up on their WL. Ridiculous.



Last Edited on: 6/1/16 4:35 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 6/1/2016 4:47 PM ET
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How does this person, who is allergic to cats, think it's okay if the book is bought used? It could've been in a multi cat home and the dander may still be on the book.

Date Posted: 6/1/2016 7:32 PM ET
Member Since: 2/13/2007
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So tired of poorly written, open to interpretation RCs! I want to send books, and I am glad to send books to members with RCs but I keep getting RCs that say things like "if it smells of..." or "please PM me before refusing". Just say what you accept! I am not going to PM anyone about their RC and if I'm not sure what is acceptable, I am not going to send the book. I appreciate that some members have severe allergies but if that is the case, perhaps PBS is not the best source for books. Rarely am I sending out a book I bought new and can attest to where it has been. i have a WL book I posted a few days ago and ever since I have been turning down unclear RC after unclear RC. I read of so many people complaining that they aren't getting hardly any books here and I want to say "do you have a poorly written, unclear or long, rambling RC?"

Date Posted: 6/2/2016 6:35 AM ET
Member Since: 6/20/2007
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I am not going to PM anyone about their RC

Me too. +1. Not gonna happen.

Date Posted: 6/2/2016 6:36 AM ET
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Why should you PM to "see if they want it?" I consider a request for a book as WANTED. Period. I mean, they either requested it actively or it came up on their WL. Ridiculous.

yesyes

Date Posted: 6/2/2016 7:26 PM ET
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I don't think there's an increase in the "PM me" type of RCs, but they do tend to congregate at the top of the Wish List, since many members (including me) click to decline them. The site actually recommends declining any time we're not sure, rather than sending a PM>

Date Posted: 6/3/2016 12:23 AM ET
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The only time the RC requests a PM is if the book is an ex-lib book.If someone doesn't have cats and its not an ex-lib book, it seems like a pretty simple RC and not open to any type of subjectivity or interpretation. My house is full of cats, otherwise I wouldn't have a problem sending to the person as long as it wasn't an ex-lib book that had been requested.

Date Posted: 6/3/2016 12:32 AM ET
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Yeah, I don't have any problems PMing to see if someone wants a book.

I generally don't care why someone wants what they want ... if I can fulfill the request within the realm of "yes, that's easy enough to do" then ... why the heck not?

I don't start feeling like they should write their RCs better. Or written only with things I approve of.

mistie -
Date Posted: 6/3/2016 2:14 AM ET
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Except Sara, there is no way to PM them until the request is accepted. My main gripe with the original RC, is that the member isn't definitive. I would have been fine with "no ex-library books", but, to want to get the choice to make the decision when the book is offered, is, IMHO, too late. Anyway, it's only an RC, and only a bookswap. Everyone is free to make their own decisions. I'm not approving or disapproving of someone else's RC, in the same way that it is my choice to say "yay", or 'nay".
Date Posted: 6/3/2016 1:47 PM ET
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Yeah, I know, that doesn't bother me.

Date Posted: 6/6/2016 5:23 AM ET
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If my book clearly meets the RC, I have no problem accepting the request but I don't accept requests with RCs that require a PM because, as has already been said, I have to accept BEFORE I can PM and I don't accept a request unless I know, for sure, that I can meet my obligation. I'm unwilling to accept any request if I can't know fully what is my obligation beforehand.



Last Edited on: 6/6/16 5:24 AM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 6/6/2016 12:02 PM ET
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Ditto Mrs. GRIM

Date Posted: 6/10/2016 1:14 PM ET
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I'm among those who probably would have declined due to the "PM me first." 

RC's are possible & even encouraged to help members get the books they want, and sending members are free to accept or decline as they wish.  But within that framework, there are still guidelines and some things just are not possible...such as PMing before accepting the request.  I no longer play the 'PM me first and wait for a reply that doesn't come' game,

I expect other members to know PBS rules and guidelines, so don't ask me to trap myself into a transaction with high potential to suck up my valuable time and energy and still fail.  I do try to fulfill RC's as often as possible, but in this case I probably would have declined and then sent a polite message letting the requestor know that the system will not allow me to PM before accepting her request and that she will probably have better success if she removes that part or adds contact information to her RC.  If the members returns a nice reply, I sometimes mention the discussion thread members are very nice and have excellent suggestions for wording RC's properly to get the books they want smiley