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Subject: Revisting Dark, Cold Alphas
Date Posted: 9/24/2008 8:54 PM ET
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Has anyone come across any new ones --- the Anne Stuart-type guys?  I know not everyone likes them, but woooweee, I sure do.



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Date Posted: 9/24/2008 8:56 PM ET
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I don't read Anne Stuart so I'm not sure of what you mean...

Date Posted: 9/24/2008 9:33 PM ET
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Her men are reeeeeeally cold.  They're major alpha's, usually killers (for the good guys) and redeem themselves for love.  She gets mixed reviews from this group -- she's too cold for some.  But I love to see these very, very bad boys fall in love and surprise themselves with who they can be.  Does that help at all?

Date Posted: 9/24/2008 9:34 PM ET
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I haven't come across any like hers..I like them too! weird how I can like hers then want to smack Diana Palmer's upside the head LOL!

gosh so many b ooks I wanna read at work these next couple of nights but we're kinda busy-ish..not bad but enough! and i couldnt' find the book I wanted to read so decided I'd pick up where I left off in the troubleshooters series (already missed 3 stores in the first 6!) but couldn't find flashpoint on my shelf and I know I have that darned book somewhre..all suzanne brockmanns were more or less together..guess that's the 'less' out of the bunch :-( however I did find the book Forbidden which is the story I'm listening to on a library audio download so I'm probably gonna finish it since the narrator is somewhat ick and the accents are bugging me for the guy voices and I'm wanting to hurry up and be done with it so Ic an start something else! I tend to do this on a lot of the audiobooks..get within 1 part of so of being done but grab the book and start reading.

If I can finish this I'll probably start 'rebecca' by daphne du mauriers, sealed with a kiss by mary daughtridge(new author for me), or  read an ebook -probably one of jennifer crusie's shorties I got from library ebook I"m borrowing...can you tell I'm optimistic?! :-)

ETA: I think some don't like them(and I have tobe in the mood for it!) because it's hard to really see the guy change and show love..it's more suspense and they've been trained to use sex as a weapon and/or not be effected by it.they have a mission to do and that's that but each falls for a woman and in the 4th book I think it is, the female agent gets a turn..that's the one I need to finish so I can go to the last one. in the next book you sorta see how the hero's settled down in his new life but sorta hard to believe it when reading some of the harshness in the current book...but I have to admit I do like these guys! :-)



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Date Posted: 9/24/2008 9:39 PM ET
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I love Bastien! His name just gives me the tingles...Bastien Toussaint.....He's definitely my favorite!! LOL ;)

ETA: I forgot to answer original question--I haven't seen any books where the heroes are like hers.



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Date Posted: 9/24/2008 10:50 PM ET
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I just finished a Sandra Brown called Honor Bound that had a pretty cold hero. He is an escaped convict that kidnaps a woman and they end up falling in love. It isn't the first book I've read of hers where the hero is cold and remote and what some people would consider a big jerk. She has another one I read a few weeks ago called Hawk O'Toole's Hostage with a similar storyline except that the hero pulls an old-fashioned train-robbery and takes the heroine hostage and pretty much scares the wits out of her.

Cherry Adair's T-FLAC series has alpha-heroes that toe the line as killers for the good-guys. Kiss and Tell (Men of T-FLAC, Bk 2) starts off with the hero warning the heroine off his property with a gun. In Hide and Seek (Men of T-FLAC, Bk. 3) the heroine thinks the hero (who is undercover) is working with a drug lord on biological weapons. I haven't read any of her others yet.

If you like Old Western romances you can find some that have the outlaw or gunslinger heroes (but not near enough that are really tough alphas IMO). Johanna Lindsey's A Heart So Wild has a very cold (but super sexy) alpha-hero. It's also one of my favorite romances, even though I haven't really like anything else I've read by Lindsey. Elizabeth Lowell's gunslinger in Only His was pretty cold too. If anyone knows any old west romances with some really hard-ass gunslinger heroes that are really put to the test (meaning there's some decent action in the story) I'd be interested in hearing some of those titles myself.

 

Date Posted: 9/24/2008 11:00 PM ET
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Well, I wouldn't describe them as cold, but Marsha Canham has a couple of what I would call highly self-serving Alpha bad boys who redeem themselves for love.  These guys:

 

Tyrone, the hero from Pale Moon Rider is a highwayman and an entirely self-serving Alpha right up to the point that he meets the heroine.  He's sort of cute& comical, IMO, because he's so shocked with himself when he starts doing these unselfish things to help her.  He doesn't fully realize the extent of it right away, but he starts to get it as he goes along, and it's fun to watch him fall head over heels and turn into one of the good guys.

And Griffyn from The Last Arrow.  Can't leave him out.  He's the ultimate strong, masculine & intelligent Alpha, and a very bad boy:P  He turns over a completely new leaf for the heroine though, and that's really a big part of what makes this book so great.  He does some very self-sacrificing things for her, and you know if not for her, he wouldn't have become the person he is at the end.



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Date Posted: 9/24/2008 11:13 PM ET
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Kim do the Canhams have to be read in order? I have all 3 but I'v eheard the last one is the best of the bunch and I"m slow at getting through mt tbr...

Date Posted: 9/24/2008 11:38 PM ET
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Have you read Linda Howard's Cry No More?  Diaz is one bad dude.  But wow!

Striking Distance by Debra Webb is another book with a really bad boy.  Really.  It ties into her many Colby Agency books, but I hadn't read any of them when I read Striking Distance and had no trouble at all following what was happening.  I read some of her other books later and didn't like them nearly as well except for Colby Conspiracy which was really sort of a follow up to Striking Distance.  But as I said, SD can stand alone.  I sent copies of it to a couple of my friends and they swooned too.  And I'm not that big a fan of romantic suspense.

Date Posted: 9/24/2008 11:38 PM ET
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Susanna, I didn't read them in order - the first time:P  I think I did them something like 3-1-2 order, and I still got the story out of them.  It's not continuing in the sense that they're cliffhangers or one picks up exactly where the previous one leaves off.  The reason for reading them in order is mostly because of the characters from the earlier books showing up in sucessive ones, and you won't know who they are and their contibutions to the Robin Hood legend, which is the underlying theme of the series and builds and evolves over the span of the series.  In the way this series is done, Robin Hood is sort of a composite of different characters in the books.  Mostly the primary and secondary heroes from The Last Arrow, but to some degree the heroes from books 1 & 2 as well.  "Friar Tuck" is also a composite of secondary characters from books 1&2, and so it goes with other characters and aspects of the Robin Hood legend.  I think you could do them in the same order that I did and live to tell about it, yeah:P  I tell people to read them in order because I think the story is best served and enjoyed that way, but if I could read them in the order I did and still get the overall story from them, so could you or anyone else.  Just be aware that certain things will lack a frame of reference until you back to the previous books.



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Date Posted: 9/25/2008 3:07 AM ET
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well since I have the I guess I should go ahead and read them in order...need to take a speed reading class or something! too many books to read and nowhere near enough time!

Date Posted: 9/25/2008 11:06 AM ET
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I can't stand the cold, distant Anne Stuart type heros.  They really turn me off big time.  Julie Garwood had some kind of like this too.  I think in the Wedding.  I like mine nice and open and vulnerable, the sensitive guys. 

 

Kim,

the Marsha Canhams arent even close to the ann stuart cold heros.  I love the Marsha Canhams.  The difference is that they may start out cold and distant, but they show some character development.  With Anne Stuart, they are still cold and distant at the end.



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Date Posted: 9/25/2008 11:18 AM ET
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Well, bleh.  That ain't no fun:P  The theme with MC's bad boys is - and this is strictly MHO - they become heroes, and there's really no doubt it's because of that accident of fate or whatever you want to call it that puts them in the heroine's path.  I'd say most especially in Griffyn from The Last Arrow's case.  He was well on his way to becoming a villain, and in all likelihood, would have become one if not for meeting Brenna.  I think that's a very big part of what I love about that book.

Date Posted: 9/26/2008 9:07 PM ET
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Shari - yep, Bastien is my all time favorite.  Good thing plenty of us like them so those authors keep writing them!  Thanks everyone.

Date Posted: 9/26/2008 9:20 PM ET
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I kinda like Peter...Bastien too..hard to decide but Peter softens some in the books after his story but I can't stand his wife LOL!

Date Posted: 9/27/2008 7:23 AM ET
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Thought the same about Peter, Susanna; Bastien I loved.

Date Posted: 10/2/2008 1:26 PM ET
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I'm not that far in yet, but Into the Shadow by Christina Dodd seems to be along these lines.  Not too often you run into an evil hero who actually seems... evil. Though presumably he'll get cleaned up a bit by the end. ;-)

Date Posted: 10/2/2008 8:06 PM ET
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wooooooooo ..... evil ...... sounds like a winner (IF he gets it together!).

Date Posted: 10/2/2008 9:36 PM ET
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It was pretty good, Karen, though I don't think Anne Stuart has anything to worry about. ;-)