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Subject: Run of bad books-feeling disgruntled.
Date Posted: 11/18/2008 7:59 PM ET
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Got another unpostable today.  Of course I got the "that's the way I got it from PBS" response.  My reply was "then you should have marked it RWP and asked for your credit back".  They said they'd give me a credit back if I sent the book. I said I don't have to send the book back.  So then they said they'd give me my credit back but not to order any books from them again.  As if I'd want another of their books if this is what they send out.  The cover is barely on the book and pages are starting to come loose. 

I'm not an overly picky person but it just seems like every book I get lately is on it's last read as a postable book or should not have been posted.  Now I appreciate the fact every book eventually gets to it's last person as a postable book.  But does that person always have to be me?  I'm afraid to mark them as all as RWP and look like I'm trying to scam free books.  I won't post a book if it looks like it won't make it through another read as a postable book.  It's just not worth the hassle of having someone ding me and I haven't had a ding in 337 sent books.  But I keep receiving these beat up books.  I love PBS but now I have all these unpostable books piling up. 

The other day I picked up a WL book to reveal for the erotica swap. I got it on PBS as a WL book. There's still a wl line for it and I noticed a stain on one of the pages. It's a small stain that I missed when I received the book.  But now I can't repost it here.  I joined another site that allows for condition notes but the books I want are never available on there and now I have a bunch of credits going unused. 

Amy
Date Posted: 11/18/2008 9:34 PM ET
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That really stinks, Mary. I have been very fortunate, I guess, in that the majority of the books I have received from other members have been in postable condition.

All I can say is to have faith in other members, who do follow the guidelines and send out postable books. Don't be discouraged, I am sure things will pick up. It wasn't always like this, right?

Date Posted: 11/18/2008 10:59 PM ET
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I too got a "I posted it in the condition it was in was I received it from here just last week and do me a favor and do not order from me again".   

And your point is??   That is just so lame; I really wanted to snap back at her, but I kept my cool and reported it as still unresolved. 

This is maybe my 2nd or 3rd problem out of 1000, so I'm not complainig about the ratio, just the thinking behind some people's profile.....How do these people deal with real issues, if they become combative over something like this.

 

Date Posted: 11/19/2008 12:52 AM ET
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Just one time, I'd like to see someone who got one of those "Don't order from me again" nastygrams respond with something like "Believe it or not, I would prefer to order from people who have actually read the PBS posting guidelines and understand the site rules, so I don't think that will be a problem:)".   Not that I'm seriously suggesting anyone actually do such a thing, mind you:P  But...

Date Posted: 11/19/2008 1:30 AM ET
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Oh Kim, I like that !  That's kinda my thoughts too. 

Date Posted: 11/19/2008 5:05 AM ET
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"I posted it in the condition it was in was I received it from here just last week and do me a favor and do not order from me again"

I had the same thing recently, from a newer members.  Perhaps it is the same person and they'll either read the rules or get weeded out.  One can only hope.

Cheers,

Catt

Date Posted: 11/19/2008 6:51 AM ET
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I have a comment from the other side of the issue- I've gotten books also that I felt I could not repost, but I ordered them because I wanted to read them.  If I can read them and enjoy them, I feel I received my credits worth.  It is certainly cheaper than buying books at the used book store or brand new.  And with all the deals offered, I really feel like I get my credits worth. 

Date Posted: 11/19/2008 7:35 AM ET
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I have a comment from the other side of the issue- I've gotten books also that I felt I could not repost, but I ordered them because I wanted to read them.  If I can read them and enjoy them, I feel I received my credits worth

If you feel that way, fine, however posting books that cannot be re-posted is against the rules, plain and simple.  That's all that needs to be said.

Date Posted: 11/19/2008 8:39 AM ET
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If I saw this book at a used book store I would not have paid $3.49 for it which is the cost of a credit from PBS.  I might have paid a quarter for it since it's a WL book.  But most likely not since I'm up to my ears in unpostables already.  Oh well I guess I'll put it into the damaged books box.  Would have been nice to read it and fullfill someone else's WL.

Date Posted: 11/19/2008 12:40 PM ET
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 I joined another site that allows for condition notes but the books I want are never available on there and now I have a bunch of credits going unused. 

 

I have the same problem. The other site sucks. There are never any books I want from there.

Date Posted: 11/19/2008 1:50 PM ET
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Angela, I started here with that attitude, too, after all it was such a blessing to be in this group and get great books.  But once you start getting more and more of the unpostables, you begin to see the problem.  I found that I was quickly getting to the point where I had few books I could repost and had to start buying credits.  Even though I didn't repost the unpostables, it encouraged (or allowed) the sender of my unpostables to feel okay about sending out more of them.  I quickly saw the light!  Now I'm very sure that when I receive an unpostable I mark it RWAP.  It's the only way to help keep quality within the system high.

Ruth

Date Posted: 11/19/2008 4:40 PM ET
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Just wanted to add a positive note (and I hope I don't jinx myself for doing so...) I have received 10 books from PBS so far.  9 were in EXCELLENT condition.  The one that wasn't still easily met the posting guidelines.  It just had  been enjoyed by a number of people. 

Val

Date Posted: 11/19/2008 6:08 PM ET
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Mary,

I'm sure the run of bad books will end soon.  Not too long ago I was on a bad run, and then received 9 like-new books.  One bad one today, though :(

I've started browsing shelves of people I see in the forums alot.  :)

~Karen~

Date Posted: 11/20/2008 8:35 PM ET
Member Since: 3/19/2007
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Sorry Mary...I can completely relate to feeling disgruntled over receiving unpostables!  The forum here cheered me up quite a bit on front. AND like Karen, I've started browsing bookshelves of those that post here and have the same PBS ethics that I do. 

I hope to have a ton more books to post soon as I dive into a plastic tub full of them to post!  ;)

Lauren

 

Date Posted: 11/21/2008 8:32 AM ET
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I don't even get the people who say "do not order from me again." Most times, you don't know who you're ordering from anyway! With the FIFO system, I mean, not the BOB. Sometimes I'll actually click through the "order more from this member" link, but if you don't, you actually don't have to ever even see who is sending you the book. So I don't get why they think we'd take those extra steps!

Date Posted: 11/21/2008 8:58 AM ET
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I love the FIFO system for WL, but I hate the FIFO system for ordering non-WL books.  I know, I know, you can't have it both ways.  But it really would be nice if there was a feedback system for members, as well as a way to choose from whom you order a book!  

But I'm going to start trolling the forum bookshelves if I'm looking for a non-WL book.  In the last few months I haven't ordered anything except deals in the bazaar (which luckily have all been awesome) and wishlist books (which, also luckily, have all been positive).

 

 



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Date Posted: 11/21/2008 9:18 AM ET
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Heather - I usually put that down to being upset or irritated about whatever problem has caused you to be communicating with them in the first place.  You don't find an amicable resolution of the problem, and they get peevish and say "Don't order from me again!", not even thinking apparently - or worse, not knowing - how the site works.  That's simple enough to do if it's a BOB swap, but otherwise, you have 2 options, either you order from someone you "know" or is running a BB special, or you order FIFO.  You don't know who is first in line with that book until they accept a request, and it's not like you'd have any alternate choices if you did.  If you cancelled & reordered, they'd just get the request again anyway:P  The sarcastic witch in me (and she's a beast:P), would want to fire back with some snarky comment to the effect that if they had actually read the help docs & knew how the site works, they'd know that per the FIFO system the ball is in their court in seeing to it that you don't order from them again & they need to decline pesky undesirable requests themselves:P  We need to be polite though, so I suppose the best thing to say when you get this reaction, is to suggest that they read up on how FIFO works and be sure to keep a list somewhere (a post it note on their forehead maybe?:P) of everyone they don't want to send books to.  Anyhoo...  I'm sure there's a nice, polite way to tell someone that you don't control who your book orders go to unless you already know who has the book you want & you're specifically ordering it from their shelf.  Come to think of it, you could just say that:P



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Date Posted: 11/21/2008 10:34 AM ET
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