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Subject: Is it safe to re-post a book I have now?
Date Posted: 3/23/2011 8:15 PM ET
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I posted a book about 3 weeks ago and it was requested to which the requester didn't want it anymore since there are writings on the text pages. I waited a couple days and re-posted and got the same requester which I also declined. I've been waiting for almost 3 weeks now if not just about there and the book only has 1 wisher and it's been saying 1 wisher for a while now so what are the chances that I may get the same requester I had before?

Date Posted: 3/23/2011 8:20 PM ET
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If I'm reading your comments correctly, you will get the same requester over and over again until there are more than one of them, someone else the book can kick over to.

Gail

Date Posted: 3/23/2011 8:32 PM ET
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You won't know until you post and see. It could be the same person and it might be someone else there is really no way to tell.

Date Posted: 3/23/2011 8:57 PM ET
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I thought a book with writing on the text pages was unpostable......unless it's a textbook?

Maybe offering it in the Bazaar Forum would be a good idea......you could state the conditions up front.

Date Posted: 3/23/2011 9:34 PM ET
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The textbook rules have been broadened since so many classes are using books other than traditional textbooks.  The rules still apply though, so if you have a book that was used as a textbook and it has writing in it, you need to PM the requester and let them know.  They then have the option of agreeing to accept the copy or passing on it.

From the Help Center.

What is the definition of a textbook?

Actually, the way the system and rules are designed, it does not matter what the "objective definition" of a textbook is.  The club members decide this - as long as the rules in the Book Condition Criteria for 'Swappability' at PBS are followed.  See the explanation and examples below.

If a member considers her book a textbook she may Post it with underlining/highlighting/writing on text pages, according to the "textbook exception" in the Book Condition Criteria for 'Swappability' at PBS; BUT since the textbook exception in the Book Condition Criteria for 'Swappability' at PBS require her to contact the requestor and obtain PM consent to the book's condition, she won't be in the position of sending a "stealth textbook" to someone who doesn't expect to receive one.

Examples/further explanation:

  • Member A posts an Economics 101 textbook - something that most people would clearly consider a textbook.   
  • Following the Book Condition Criteria for 'Swappability' at PBS textbook exception rules, she sends a Personal Message to the requestor when she gets a request, describing the book's condition.
  • Chances are good that she will get PM consent from the requestor to send the book with highlighting/etc. 
  • Member B posts a novel (fiction) that she used in a class - something that most people would NOT consider a textbook.
    • Following the Book Condition Criteria for 'Swappability' at PBS textbook exception rules, she sends a Personal Message to the requestor when she gets a request, describing the book's condition.
    • Chances are good that she will NOT get PM consent from the requestor to send the book with highlighting/etc.
    • If the requestor declines the book in its condition, Member B will have to cancel the request and repost her book.  It will go to the 'back of the line' for requests.  (If it is a Wish Listed book, it will be offered to the same wisher and the sender will again have to cancel.  She will have to wait for the wishing member to get a copy of this book from someone else before Member B can post her copy again.)

So, the farther the book is from a 'textbook' in common perception, the more likely it will be difficult to get consent to its condition.  Members in Member B's situation may encounter several declines, and will eventually realize that the book is not likely to be acceptable to the club in its condition.  Member B will stop trying to offer it as a "textbook"  and will consider it instead an unpostable/damaged book.

In this way, the club defines "textbook" on a case-by-case basis, and no one who is following the rules will be able to "surprise" another person with a highlighted/written-in/underlined book.



Last Edited on: 3/23/11 9:36 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 3/23/2011 10:32 PM ET
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It is postable. He's saying that he posted it, did the required PM and the 1 wisher didn't want it that way. Now he's wondering if enough time has passed to repost the book and get someone else. But there's no way to tell without reposting the book.

Date Posted: 3/24/2011 12:17 AM ET
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So I did repost and I got the same person. Guess I'll just have to wait some more time.

Date Posted: 3/24/2011 1:53 AM ET
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I thought the system wouldn't - let - the same requestor request the same copy of a book once they'd declined it, for whatever reason. I have a no-writing-in-the-text RC and after one sender declined my request, I got a message from PBS saying that the book couldn't be put on my wish list as there was a single copy available, so it'd go on my reminder list until someone else had ordered that first copy. It's still there - same single copy available. Several months after this happened, I forgot that was the book with which that had happened, requested it from my reminder list, and got a pop-up saying something like 'You've already requested this copy of the book and cannot request it again unless you turn off your requestor conditions.' So why isn't this happening with the OP's book, I wonder.
Date Posted: 3/24/2011 8:29 AM ET
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Margaret -- The requestor, in the OP's case, did not have an RC. The OP posted the book under textbook rules and then PMed the requestor; the requestor responded that s/he did not want the book, and the sender then cancelled. There's a difference between declining an RC and cancelling the request.

Date Posted: 3/24/2011 8:53 AM ET
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Thanks, Deb. . I guess I thought the system would make the same sort of link between that copy of the book and the requestor who didn't want it. Too bad it won't do that.
Date Posted: 3/24/2011 9:07 AM ET
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They've actually changed it now so that you can rerequest a book that was declined for RCS.  Although you may have to turn off or edit RCS to do it.  People were complaining that they couldn't rerequest books that were declined when they had forgotten to turn off RCS or the RCs were turned down for something dumb (dust jacket RC on a paperback).