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Subject: September BOM Theme
Date Posted: 7/23/2008 1:22 PM ET
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As Jennifer suggested, below is the list of books nominated so far. (And I thought I was the general. Poo!) ;-)

  • The Confession of Piers Gaveston by Brandy Purdy
  • The Memoirs of Hadrian- Marguerite Yourcenar
  • An Arrow's Flight- Mark Merlis
  • Farewell my Concubine- Lilian Lee
  • Goat Song by Frank Yerby
  • As Meat Loves Salt by Maria McCann
  • Earthly Joys-Philippa Gregory
  • At Swim, Two Boys- Jamie O'Neill
  • The First Man in Rome- Colleen McCullough
  • Tipping the Velvet by Sara Waters

It looks like I'm the general for September. Oh, no!

My interests are all over the place. I'm the kind of person that never does the same thing for too long. And since I'm a researcher, curiosity is a job hazard.

I've recently become curious about the treatment of homosexuality (or gay characters or themes) in historical fiction. So the theme for September will be this. To define it just a tad bit more, I'd like to include contemporary fiction as long as it treats a topic that is now historical. For example, a novel about attitudes toward homosexuality written as contemporary fiction during the 1950s would qualify.

Keep in mind too that what it means to be "gay" has changed over time. So the HF doesn't have to portray the gay character in accordance with modern attitudes.

The main character must be gay (male or female) or the main plot must deal with a gay theme. There are several examples of books in this sub-genre in this post on my blog.

Edit: I should add that to avoid offending anyone, I'd like to exclude erotica, which includes homoerotica and hardcore gay historical romances.



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Date Posted: 7/23/2008 1:31 PM ET
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Interesting topic! I'd like to nominate The Confession of Piers Gaveston by Brandy Purdy, ISBN 9780595455232.

ETA: Just read your blog...Have you already read The Confession of PG? I think Jennifer is reading Goat Song right now.



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Date Posted: 7/23/2008 2:15 PM ET
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Very interesting topic indeed, Genie!! I have several that come to mind immediately! Off to start hunting!

Date Posted: 7/23/2008 2:32 PM ET
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Okay, I have my top three. I have read all but one of these, An Arrow's Flight, and if it isn't okay to nominate more than one, I will probably nominate that one. But if it is okay, I would like to nominate all three since they are from such different time periods and places.

The Memoirs of Hadrian- Marguerite Yourcenar

An Arrow's Flight- Mark Merlis

Farewell my Concubine- Lilian Lee

Date Posted: 7/23/2008 2:47 PM ET
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Cool, what a thought-provoking subject, Genie!  Thanks!  I'm totally clueless (yes, this is the third month in a row), so I'll just sit back and see what gets nominated! 

Date Posted: 7/23/2008 3:12 PM ET
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Oh, Valli, I am reading Goatsong by Tom Holt NOT Goat Song by Frank Yerby. The Holt book is a comical HF book, while Goat Song is serious HF set in Ancient Greece and deals with a boy who is captured in the war between the Athenians and the Spartans and is sold into slavery in a brothel.

Date Posted: 7/23/2008 3:45 PM ET
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I think because this is such an unusual and specific subject, everyone should feel free to nominate up to 3 titles. Does that sound fair?

All nominations sound interesting to me so far. I haven't read any of them.

We'll keep the nominations coming in through the weekend. I'll find time to post the winner on Monday or Tuesday next week.

Shelly, I felt like you last month. LOL! But I'm really enjoying the Black Ships book.

Date Posted: 7/23/2008 4:09 PM ET
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Well, then, let's throw Yerby's Goat Song into the pot too! I have a copy and have been wanting to read it.

Date Posted: 7/23/2008 4:16 PM ET
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Wow,  the Goat Song by Yerby sounds really good!  (Not that I would be trying to influence anyone, LOL,  Just seconding Valli's nomination!)

Genie - You're already reading Black Ships?  I've got mine, but I'm waiting until August.  Last month I tried to read along with the schedule as I enjoyed participating in the discussion, but eventually I read ahead and finished two weeks ahead of schedule!  LOL! So, I'm reading the second book in that series now. I  may try to stay on task with Black Ships

 

Date Posted: 7/23/2008 5:12 PM ET
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As Meat Loves Salt.....I've already posted and sent it but it's a great read on the subject and I'd get another copy for BoM....

Date Posted: 7/23/2008 6:14 PM ET
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Interesting theme indeed!  Here are my three.  Please let me know if any of these books don't jive with what you're looking for and I'l find something else :)

Earthly Joys-Philippa Gregory

At Swim, Two Boys- Jamie O'Neill

The First Man in Rome- Colleen McCullough

Date Posted: 7/23/2008 6:29 PM ET
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Oooh, I'll second Colleen's nomination of As Meat Loves Salt too.  I just got it from the library, but if it turns out to be the winner, I'll bring it back and get it again in September.

Date Posted: 7/23/2008 7:14 PM ET
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Oooh, I am so glad to see that someone nominated one of Colleen McCullough's Master of Rome series books! I LOVED The First Man in Rome!

Date Posted: 7/23/2008 7:53 PM ET
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All titles nominated so far fit the theme of the month as far as I'm concerned. They all sound like good reads. The only one I've read is As Meat Loves Salt, which is the best book I've read this year. I borrowed it from the library and then attended a book sale and found a copy. Then when I got home, I saw it was coming to me from PBS. LOL! I had an auto-accept on it. I wanted it that bad. Now I have 2 copies!

Shelly, I'm reading Black Ships now because I borrowed it from the library. It has a wait list and my number came up 2 weeks before our scheduled read. Usually, I'm late to the party, so at least I won't have to play catch up this time.

Date Posted: 7/23/2008 7:59 PM ET
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Genie, are you going to keep a list on the first post of all the books that have been nominated so far? I think it makes it easier for people to see what has already been nominated.

Date Posted: 7/23/2008 9:25 PM ET
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Looks like both of my ideas have been nominated.  I am so glad Holly nominated The First Man in Rome.  I certainly wouldn't mind reading that one again!  I think I had seen Valli's choice on Genie's blog and thought that one looked good since I am reading a biography about Isabella and Edward II right now.



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Date Posted: 7/23/2008 9:38 PM ET
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this is going to be a interesting topic I think!

Date Posted: 7/23/2008 10:17 PM ET
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Figured I'd nominate First Man in Rome because I have that one and the next two in the series on my shelf.  All of the nominations look good to me so far :)

Date Posted: 7/23/2008 10:34 PM ET
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I'd like to read Goat Song again.  It has been a long time since I read that book.  How about Tipping the Velvet by Sara Waters?

Date Posted: 7/24/2008 10:09 AM ET
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Genie, you are still the general! I am just a lowly lieutenant making a suggestion for the betterment of the squadron! Sorry if I was insubordinate! hehe

Date Posted: 7/24/2008 10:35 AM ET
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that's a great list---are we staying selection-methodology consistent, with Jennifer's BF doing the random honors? i loved that!

Date Posted: 7/24/2008 10:46 AM ET
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I would love to read First Man in Rome again too! I've been wanting to re-read the whole series before I start the last book, and this would make me go ahead and do it.

Date Posted: 7/24/2008 11:01 AM ET
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I agree, I would love to re-read First Man in Rome again too. I got Antony and Cleo in the mail a few months ago, but haven't read it because I would need to go back and re-read the entire series. This could be my motivation!

Date Posted: 7/24/2008 1:09 PM ET
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LOL, Jennifer. That sassy image you have posted next to your name doesn't look sorry! :)

Colleen, Yes, I'll do something similar to what Valli and Jennifer did, though I do think the BF is now out of the picture. :)

Genie

Date Posted: 7/24/2008 1:33 PM ET
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LOL Genie! I really *am* sorry! That  is a picture my mom had taken a few years ago. She insisted that  my sister and I go have our pictures made at a professional studio, and Jason was digging though our photo albums scanning our pictures for safekeeping, and found that one.  I just decided to use it  for my icon. Hm.... maybe I need to find one of me looking pouty for today?..... hahaha

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