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Subject: Settings-Privacy Controls
Date Posted: 3/25/2009 10:43 PM ET
Member Since: 3/13/2009
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Of all the things that one might see in another member's profile I think the most interesting thing is how many books they have sent and received.  And yet when you click on someone's profile you almost always see two dashes under those headings. That is because when each menber signed up the default setting for that information is "PRIVATE."

I don't see why anyone would care if that information is "PUBLIC" after seeing your age and hometown. It's just that very few people made the effort to change the setting.

I wish everyone would change that setting OR that PBS editors would change the default setting.



Last Edited on: 3/26/09 11:46 PM ET - Total times edited: 2
Date Posted: 3/25/2009 11:05 PM ET
Member Since: 8/10/2005
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Yes, that information used to always be visible and it wasn't all that long ago that the powers that be made it possible to make it and other information more private. I think you're right in that most people wouldn't really care that people can see how many books sent/received and that people don't realize that NOT showing it is the default setting.

I can't imagine that it would make any difference to people to know that information, really. It doesn't to me, anyway, since a great majority of my swaps come through the FIFO system (not from ordering directly from a person's bookshelf) and I rarely actually look at a profile.

Anyway, welcome to PBS!

Cheryl

Date Posted: 3/26/2009 12:13 AM ET
Member Since: 12/9/2007
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Doesn't it show the map of the member if you allow that info to be part of your publc profile?  If it does then it might be that it would show where the member lived.  Unless they fixed that so it wouldn't show to the public.  I can't remember now if it does or not.  It used to.  And lots of people here have gotten paranoid about their privacy because of a few situations that occured.

Ruth

Date Posted: 3/26/2009 12:40 AM ET
Member Since: 1/15/2007
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The link for the map doesn't show up on your profile, Ruth, but it does on Thomas'.  It looks like they've updated that feature to only show the map if you allow your city and state to be shown.

 

Date Posted: 3/26/2009 7:00 AM ET
Member Since: 5/27/2006
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 I don't see why anyone would care if that information is "PUBLIC" after seeing your age and hometown.

Some members haven't bothered to take the time to change this setting, while others (like myself) have it hidden for a reason. All of my family and friends who do not belong to PBS give me their books to post. And I post a tremendous amount myself ~ mostly all wish list books  or ones with just a few copies in the system (as you can tell by my not having books on my shelf).  Also, none of the books on my WL are available yet so I'm not spending any of those credits. My friend and I also do a bi-weekly book swap where we buy each other books from our WL's.  So if you were to look at my incoming and outgoing books, you would see very litte incoming and a tremendous amount of outgoing.  And belive it or not, I would get requests from random members asking me for credits! Now I don't mind giving credits to my friends (I even donated 500 back to PBS with more to come) but I didn't like random members PM'ing me  (this is an actual PM) and saying "Hey - I notice you have a mailed a ton of books, but you don't get any in. How about spreading the wealth and GIVING me some of those credits you're obvioulsy not using".

Date Posted: 3/26/2009 7:15 AM ET
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Lori...OMG, you are kidding??!! Well, okay, you're obviously not kidding....but cripes! The nerve of some people!! I don't mind giving away credits if it's my idea, but begging bugs the heck outta me.

On the other hand, I'm not someone who lets what other people do dictate my behavior, so I would not change my settings for that reason, although it would be annoying to get those PMs. Depending on my mood, I might even relish those type of PMs just so I could tell the beggars to bug off. ::grin::

Cheryl

Date Posted: 3/26/2009 11:56 AM ET
Member Since: 5/10/2005
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Yeah, some folks were getting PMs. 

If the books sent was much lower than the books received the accusations were of bleeding books from the site.  If the books sent was higher the accusations were of hoarding.

During the time that was most rampant I set mine to hidden.  I've not had a good reason to go turn it back on, and I'm kinda horrified at how much postage is implied by the numbers anyway!

(edited to fix a wrong word)



Last Edited on: 3/26/09 11:56 AM ET - Total times edited: 1
Kim (Mistry) -
Date Posted: 3/26/2009 12:09 PM ET
Member Since: 6/23/2006
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 Lori, that is just crazy!  I can  never get over people who have the absolute nerve to just come out and beg for credits because you have enough to spread the wealth around.!  Wow, nervy!

  I didn't like the map showing where I lived, but what I've done is in my bookshelf header and inmy public profile, I've listed how many books I've sent and received, because I also like to check out that information :)

Date Posted: 3/26/2009 12:15 PM ET
Member Since: 8/23/2007
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I was also going to say that I've seen people post on here about how they got PMS from people basically yelling at them for having a disproportionate sent/received #'s.  Either they bought credits and sent few books out or sent out lots of books and received very few.  I don't know what my ratio is now but I think I've sent out 100 more books then I've received. It used to be where I had sent out twice what I'd received but it's closer now. I've never had anyone PM me about it though.  It wasn't intentional. It's just that I had a lot of WL books when I joined and an addiction to trolling thrift stores to find WL books.  I also had my account on hold for 6months because of a big move and during that time I onlyh posted WL books and didn't order anything.

I know people who just don't have the time to wrap up and mail books or they keep all their books so they buy credits from other members. So their books received # is a whole lot higher then their books sent #.   It all balances out in the end but some people don't see it that way and have bothered others about it.

I also know a few people on here that used to have used book stores.  THey kept a lot of the books and post them on here and sell their credits to cover postage. They do it for fun and not to make money-because really it would not be very profitable when you factor in the time, packign materials and postage costs.  They do it because they love books and trading books. 

Date Posted: 3/26/2009 12:40 PM ET
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Wow Lori! If someone was that nervy to ask me to GIVE them some credits, I'd point out that I paid for postage as well as took the time to wrap & take them to the post office. Then I'd offer to sell them some credits for $.25 more that what PBS sells them for!

Geri (geejay) -
Date Posted: 3/26/2009 1:16 PM ET
Member Since: 9/2/2008
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Think about it.  The person didn't ask or beg Lori for the credits.  That person demanded she give them credits!  That person would not have gotten a nice reply from me. 

Date Posted: 3/26/2009 1:55 PM ET
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That's why I'd offer to sell them some credits for more that what PBS sells them for. If they are purposely going to research my profile to try & solicit me when I didn't advertise I want to get rid of any credits in the first place, don't expect a freebie. And I have just as much right to be as audacious and ludicrous in my response as they were.  



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Date Posted: 3/26/2009 3:21 PM ET
Member Since: 12/9/2007
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I'm appalled.  My sent/recieved ratio is disprportionate.  I've gotten about 100 more than I've sent out.  I didn't have a large bookshelf to begin with but I have large eyes and have bought a lot of credits from PBS.  The books aren't being "bled off" - I just haven't read them fast enough.  And some are gifts like birthday and Christmas - but I always tell the giftee that if they've read it and/or don't want to keep it to give it back for me to trade (this is only fmaily members!).  I would never ask - never mind demand - someone for credits.  How rude!  That's pruely amazing.  I guess some people figure "if you don't ask you won't get" and "what can they do but say no". 

 

I think I'll put my books sent and received on the bookshelf header because as mentioned - people like to know you are active - even if most of my activity is "me" related.  ;D

Ruth

Date Posted: 3/26/2009 3:29 PM ET
Member Since: 8/15/2007
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I purposely have mine hidden. Not for any particular reason, just that I don't see it as anyone's business. I don't understand the interest in seeing how many books someone has sent and received. Besides, wouldn't it make the info of which books were sent and received? I don't want people with books I have that are on their WL sending me PMs wondering why I haven't posted the book back into the system.

Edit to add: Ok, I just checked out the books received/sent link in someone's profile and it doesn't show which books were sent/received. But still, I don't feel compelled to reveal the info for all to see. I don't really know why! I guess I'm just super private?



Last Edited on: 3/26/09 3:34 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 3/26/2009 3:34 PM ET
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No, it doesn't specify which books you have on your lists as being sent out - it's only numbers - not titles.

Ruth

Date Posted: 3/26/2009 3:39 PM ET
Member Since: 5/27/2006
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I have to say I was kind of laughed at the first one, and then after the 5th or 6th time I didn't think it was so funny and that's when I changed my settings.  I was questioned on a) why I was hoarding my credits and b) why was I bothering to send out books when I knew I had no intention of using my credits.  The funny thing is, my intention all along was to donate them back to PBS.  I just wanted to donate them in a large enough sum to do some good. Yes, I know a few here and there would help -- but a nice chunk would be even better :)  So - fine call me selfish because I hoarded them. And you could have called me "smart" for selling them.  So figure I sold the 500 I gave to PBS  for $3/ea.  $1500 is a nice chunk of change, especially in this economy.  But I'd rather be called unselfish and stupid and donate them back to PBS - a site which I found  just when I needed it,  which introduced me to a whole new genre of books I never would have read before (cozies), and which introduced me to some very good friends I now would be lost without. I thought it would be nice to give back to a site that has given me so much!