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Subject: short isbn
Date Posted: 5/8/2010 9:03 AM ET
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Subject: Short isbn
Date Posted: 5/8/2010 9:05 AM ET
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Does anyone know what the short ISBN numbers are.  I am hoping they are assigned by PaperBack Swap when a book doesn't have an ISBN.  Thank you for taking the time to read and or respond to my question.

Cathy A. (Cathy) - ,
Date Posted: 5/8/2010 9:38 AM ET
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Yes, that's exactly what they are.

Date Posted: 5/8/2010 9:38 AM ET
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You are exactly right Kelly. They are assigned by PBS when someone posts a book without an ISBN.  They are for that particular copy only and should not be used again.

 

ETA: To correct your name, sorry about that!



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Date Posted: 5/8/2010 10:55 AM ET
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Yuppers, one use numbers assigned for PBS member use. 

NOT intended to be used for books not yet published.

Date Posted: 5/8/2010 6:01 PM ET
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Yes -- if you receive a particular short ISBN book, you can repost it using that same number, but that's the only way it should be reused.

Date Posted: 5/9/2010 8:28 AM ET
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I tried posting a book this morning and it came up with a title in an entirely different genre. PBS had assigned a short ISBN to the book I want to post. I can understand recyling old ISBN numbers but my book is a March 2010 release. It's very frustrating.

I sent an e-mail to PBS a few months ago because I came up with the same problem in the very same situation. The answer I got was pretty much "oh well, that's the way the system is". So it makes the search for a book much more frustrating for requesters if they do have the correct ISBN but another book comes up. PBS's cavalier attitude about the problem was just as frustrating but I can understand the confusion that would come up if corrections were attempted.

ETA: I tried posting the book to my inventory at LibraryThing and the same book that comes up HERE came up at LT, so apparently someone, somewhere, attached a wrong ISBN to the (other) book and any site that downloaded the information received incorrect information. Funnily enough, when I checked my book at fiction.db the ISBN worked fine, correct cover pic came up, correct title, etc. Very weird.



Last Edited on: 5/9/10 8:41 AM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 5/10/2010 5:18 AM ET
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Pioneervalleygirl - sometimes publishers reuse ISBN numbers.  This could account for your situation if PBS and LT have listed one book published under that ISBN, but the other site you mention is using the alternate book with the same ISBN. 

Can be confusing, and luckily this doesn't happen often.

Cathy A. (Cathy) - ,
Date Posted: 5/10/2010 9:02 AM ET
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Most people don't search by ISBN, but by author and/or title, so your non-ISBN posting will show up in the search results just fine as long as you spell everything right. ISBN searches are most useful if you can't find a book in the DB at all and you want to force the system to go out and download the info.

Also, I'm not sure what you'd have PBS do in the case where a publisher has reused an ISBN and it now applies to both Title A and Title B. They can't change the existing listing from A to B after people have used it, because all those previously posted books will then be posted incorrectly. Re-architecting the database to allow multiple titles to have the same ISBN would be a huge undertaking -- a couple of man-years at least. I just don't think they have the manpower to do that kind of work.

Date Posted: 5/10/2010 3:28 PM ET
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I've always been a bit confused about the reuse of ISBNs. I looked it up, and according to ISBN.org (the agency that issues ISBNs):

5.13. ISBN can never be re-used

An ISBN, once assigned, can NEVER be re-used, under any circumstances. This is of the utmost importance to avoid confusion.

 

So... why are ISBNs being reused then? (rhetorical question, really)



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Date Posted: 5/10/2010 4:07 PM ET
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I think they should tell that to the publishers. cheeky