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Subject: smokers response
Date Posted: 8/31/2010 7:41 AM ET
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I got a chuckle out of this denial for a book............my RC states "no cigarette smell or smoking home". I am fine getting turned down and having to wait longer for a book after all I am the one "being picky".  But I really felt like I got a slap on my hand with this response!   Does she stand outside all year long alone reading while smoking??? Do smokers realize how much the smell clings to their clothing and skin???

 

The member who this book was ordered from had this to say....

I am a smoker I do not smoke in my home or in any vehicle though.  I make it a
point not to smoke around my family. I am sorry that you don't want the book it
is brand new I have only had it for about 5 days and I finshed reading it the
day I started it is an amazing book. S\
 

Date Posted: 8/31/2010 8:06 AM ET
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Tammie, I really don't think they do.  My mother was a smoker from the time she was a teenager.  She had some medical issues 10 years ago at the age of 60 and was forced to give up smoking.

Before she quit, I really didn't smell smoke on her or me or any of our clothing or coats, etc.  I couldn't smell it on anyone else either really.

Now that she's quit, I can smell a smoker when they're still halfway across the room.

Date Posted: 8/31/2010 8:10 AM ET
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Well, to be honest, I am not a smoker, and I don't have any RCs and I have never gotten a book that smelled 'smoky' to me from PBS, and I've gotten a lot of books. I agree that you can smell a smoker a mile away, and when I've stayed at family members' homes who are smokers, I have to wash all the clothes, even stuff in my suitcase that never got worn, or it reeks.

But even though I'm not a smoker, I would turn down your RC because of the wording--"no cigarette smell" because it's asking me to make a subjective judgment.

That said, I wouldn't include a snarky comment when I did decline, I would just explain why. But some folks feel they need to somehow 'punish' those with RCs and feel like they need to comment and try to make you feel bad...."too bad for you you missed out on this book, nyah nyah..." LOL Ignore it and move on. :)

Cheryl

Subject: Smoking...
Date Posted: 8/31/2010 8:13 AM ET
Member Since: 5/24/2010
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My mom was a smoker from the time she was 15, back then it was big in England because ads claimed smoking helped cure emphysema. She quit cold turkey when my son was born (her dad was diagnosed with lung cancer on the same day I gave birth and died two months later so that was the push she needed.) One of the first things she noticed when she stopped smoking was that things smelled much stronger and tasted better. I think smoking deadens some of the senses and smell is one of them.

Date Posted: 8/31/2010 9:09 AM ET
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lol my husband also never got it until he stopped smoking.. however that lady cracks me up.. i am right there with you.. i have RC's.. actually i have a ton of RC's haha.. but the only major one i have is no books reeking of cig smoke... i am asthmatic.. now if its a book i seriously want and it doesnt reek of it i have no issues but ive gotten some books before (and even 1 or 2 after ) my RC's that i had to put outside to air out and hit my inhaler hard.. so yea.. but i dont think smokers really realize it until after they stop smoking.. not all but most in my experience

Date Posted: 8/31/2010 9:35 AM ET
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I would have taken it to mean that she's a smoker, but smokes outside so the book was not in a smoking environment.  I think she was just trying to give an explanation rather than being snarky about it. 

Date Posted: 8/31/2010 11:28 AM ET
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I don't find it unusal at all, in this day and age, that someone only smokes outside their home and car.  Most of the smokers I know never smoke in their home.  Most smoke outside, come in and wash their hands then go about their business.   I don't see anything snarky about the answer to the RC.  I'm not sure why you would think you got slapped on the hand. 

Date Posted: 9/1/2010 12:10 AM ET
Member Since: 8/15/2007
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I don't see anything snarky or slap on the hand-ish in her response. It seems like a reasonable explanation. I think she knows her copy of the book isn't the only one and that you'll get another. She's just telling you it technically meets your RC, but since she smokes it technically doesn't as well and it's too bad she can't send it to you since it's a really good book.

Date Posted: 9/1/2010 6:44 PM ET
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She's just telling you it technically meets your RC, but since she smokes it technically doesn't as well and it's too bad she can't send it to you since it's a really good book.

Exactly! I'm always unsure what to write in the reason when I have to deny an RC. Some members complain that they want more than just "Does not meet conditions" when an RC is denied so they can either amend their RC if they're getting turned down too often, or request the book again without it if they really want the book. But personally, I'd be offended if I answered honestly and IMO politely and then my response ended up being criticized on the forums. I really wish the reason wasn't a required field because I think sometimes a certain tone is seen by the reader when it wasn't intended.

Date Posted: 9/2/2010 11:48 AM ET
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Well, to be honest, I am not a smoker, and I don't have any RCs and I have never gotten a book that smelled 'smoky' to me from PBS, and I've gotten a lot of books.

Count yourself as lucky then, I guess!  I've gotten some that were so bad I had to open the box in the garage- I could smell them through the sealed box!  Thankfully, they "aired out" after living in the garage for quite a while & going through several rounds of odor removing! 

Yes, I now request books with an RC: books currently in smoke-free homes.  (Books do usually "air-out" if they've been residing in a smoke-free home for a bit...)  I just prefer not to deal with that if I can avoid it.  Sure- you lose out on a few books once in a while, but at least when I get my books, I don't feel like I'm holding someone's ashtray under my nose! :)   

Date Posted: 9/2/2010 1:15 PM ET
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Count yourself as lucky then, I guess!  I've gotten some that were so bad I had to open the box in the garage-

I agree. Most times there's no problem, but I've gotten a couple that were so smokey I could smell them when I opened my mailbox. And it was horrible when I opened them.

When they're bad, they can be really bad. I don't have an RC, so have just lucked out that it's only been a couple so far.

Date Posted: 9/2/2010 2:29 PM ET
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Wow, it sure sounded snarky to me. A way of saying "you didn't phrase your RC in the right way, so you don't get this awesome book even though technically it met your requirements, nah nah nah."

Date Posted: 9/2/2010 7:25 PM ET
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Geez. I saw no snarkiness at all. I smoke outside , not in my car or home. And o wash my hands when I come in. It's just respect to my nonsmoking family. But I can go to my sisters house who smokes inside and I smell the stink. I always accept rcs, them pm them my situation. Offering to cancel if they'd like. No one has so far. And no rwap.
Date Posted: 9/5/2010 7:04 PM ET
Member Since: 1/16/2009
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So what happens if you don't smoke and repost a book that did come from a smoker? I don't smell it but some overly sensitve person does and now I am liable for the book getting rejected and losing a credit, not to mention the cost and time of mailing. I just don't think the requirement makes sense.



Last Edited on: 9/5/10 7:04 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 9/5/2010 7:26 PM ET
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Well Doug - if you can't smell smoke and choose to send it and they say it DOES smell like smoke, it's your word against theirs.  No one is going to make you give back the credit.  A book isn't rejected - it's marked received with a problem.  Some of the requestor conditions say, "Do not send if currently in a smokers home."  Othes says "No not send if they smell smokey."    I'd send to the first, but only to the second if I KNEW it had not been exposed to smoke.   There is nothing wrong with refusing if you feel you should.  No one has to be snarky - just say "my book does not meet the RC" and that's the end of it.