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Subject: Spoken Word CDs Go Where?
Date Posted: 12/21/2007 8:20 PM ET
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I have two spoken word CDs that are not audio books.  Both have UPCs and one also has an ISBN.  They are just the audio recording of stand-up comedy (Eddie Izzard). 

I will probably hang on to them but if I do decide to post them, where would they go?

I'm guessing they would be posted on SwapACD rather than here because they are not available in a printed edition like Audio Books are.  Then again, they aren't music...

I checked both sites and both sites include his preformances on CDs.



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Date Posted: 12/21/2007 8:58 PM ET
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I don't think they're postable on PBS. I'm guessing SwapaCD if they have a comedy section.  I don't belong to that one though so I can't say.

Date Posted: 12/21/2007 11:50 PM ET
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I would also like a definite answer on this from the head honchos...lol

Date Posted: 12/22/2007 3:51 AM ET
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As wonderful as Eddie Izzard is, he's not writing books, so his CD's can't go here on PBS.

The help docs on the Swap-a-CD site say music CD's only, but I checked further over there, and when you do a search by genre, there's a "comedy" genre which pulls up Izzard, Foxworthy, Adam Sandler, etc., so it looks like when they say "music only" they're including comedy but deliberately excluding CD audio books (which belong here.)

Date Posted: 12/22/2007 6:40 PM ET
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I thought the same thing, but I did a little digging and there ARE books by Eddie Izzard with the same titles as his DVDs (or CDs).

So far the only difference I can tell between the two sites is that spoken word CDs (audio books) are 2 credits here and only 1 credit on SACD.

I will ask R&R, though, and post their reply.

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This is the reply I got.  I emailed again to ask if this means all the copies of these CDs on PBS were going to be removed.

Dear Ange, Spoken-word CDs are akin to concert/performance CDs and would be appropriate for SwapaCD, not PBS.  Spoken-word CDs are not audiobooks.  A DVD of a standup comedy performance would be appropriate for SwapaDVD.  A book that is read aloud is an audiobook, and would be okay for PBS. Have a great day! The PaperBackSwap Team

 

 



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Date Posted: 12/22/2007 10:37 PM ET
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Still clear as mud...lol

Here is an example of just one that I ran across while I was doing images:

At the Cross: Where Healing Begins

This is a book by Rod Parsley.

There is an audio and a cd version of the services that the book is pulled from. They are not someone reading the book. Would these then have to posted on SaC and not here, too? Because these do not fall into the 'spoken word' classification of SaC as I read it.

Edited to add that these audios are offered by parsley under the same title of "At The Cross"



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Date Posted: 12/23/2007 4:04 AM ET
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Hmmm, when I type "Izzard" into the search window on this site, I get nothing.  Is it possible that you were looking at the DVD site, which would have all the same titles?  In any case, thanks for asking R&R for clarification.  I'll be curious as to what they say.

Date Posted: 12/23/2007 7:02 PM ET
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I think what they are saying is:

1)If it's an audio recording of a stage performance, it's a CD and goes at the CD swap.

2)If it's the comedian's book, read by him/her, (say Paul Reiser's Babyhood, for example), then it would go here, at PBS.

3)If it's a DVD performance, naturally it goes at the swap a DVD site.

I would say that if no book exists by that person with the same title, than it should be posted at the CD swap.

Date Posted: 12/23/2007 8:32 PM ET
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Just adding more to the mix here:

The following is posted to my shelf, simply because it was in the system with this ISBN. Again, not a book, not even an audio, but a computer CDRom.

 

Who Do You Think You Are? (The Berkeley Personality Profile, Version 1) :: Keith Harary PhD, Eileen Donahue PhD

 

Date Posted: 12/23/2007 8:54 PM ET
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I suspect that the search for Izzard yeilded nothing here because I later asked R&R if all the CDs like the Izzards that were posted here would be removed. 

The answer was yes, and to let R&R know about them so they can be deleted.

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Actually, the items I saw are still there.  Do an Advanced Search and use IZZARD in the author line and change the search to look in all books.  In the results, I saw a hardcover and an audio CD on the first page and more audio CDs on the second page.

 



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Date Posted: 12/23/2007 9:54 PM ET
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Something to remember though is just because something is already in the system doesn't mean it should be.  There have been random strange things posted here, like magazines, games, movies, even toys.  You can report them and get them removed, but if someone adds them again......

You would have to check with R&R, but unless the CD-ROM accompanies a book, I don't think it's allowed to be posted here. 

Date Posted: 12/26/2007 12:26 AM ET
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I noticed today that the puzzle I bought my 5 year old neice has an ISBN.

Date Posted: 12/26/2007 12:03 PM ET
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Many items that can be found by ISBN are not postable here. Dartha - what you have linked is one of them, per the help section, anything requiring a computer to read is not allowed. <ETA - referring to the "Who Do You Think You Are..., link not the one linking to a hard cover book>

Not allowed:

  • Anything that is not a book
  • Anything that contains advertising
  • Advance Reader Copies (also known as ARC s, Review Copies or Uncorrected Proofs--these are not the final versions of books)
  • CD-ROM books/e-books (books that must be read on a computer)
  • Burned copies of audio books
  • Xerox or otherwise unoriginal copies of books
  • Unbound pages
  • leaflets or pamphlets or booklets* without ISBNs (other members complain at spending a credit for these)
  • Books that require supplementary non-media materials (non-media materials cannot be sent by MediaMail)
  • Pornography (sex manuals and erotica are allowed, hardcore pornography is not allowed)


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Date Posted: 12/26/2007 8:52 PM ET
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CD-ROM books/e-books (books that must be read on a computer.

 

I guess you could apply that. However this is not a book. It is an interactive testing CDRom. That you do have to use on the computer. I knew about the ebook and computer books, because I got my grandsons some. (Sorry, can't get the bold off)

 

 

 

Date Posted: 12/26/2007 9:41 PM ET
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If it is not a book, then it is clearly not postable on PBS (#1 of not postable). And since the details state "...CD-ROM for Windows, Windows 95, and Macintosh Version 1.0. An interactive workshop on CD-ROM. ..." then it is also not postable because it requires an operating system which means it requires a computer to read, so it appears unpostable on two fronts.

Not really arguing, really just trying to figure what makes it seem postable here..

Date Posted: 12/26/2007 10:38 PM ET
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Not really arguing, really just trying to figure what makes it seem postable here..

LOL. and we are trying to find out if and where we CAN post them....rotf

Date Posted: 12/26/2007 11:45 PM ET
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I don't think there is anywhere to post computer software stuff.  But we're up to DVDs and goats now, so maybe one day!  I'm hoping one day for Swap-a-Coffee-Mug.  I have way too many of those around the kitchen.

Date Posted: 12/27/2007 1:51 AM ET
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Not true that if the CD needs an operating system to use, it's not postable.

Many, many books come with CDs as supplements.  In fact, I taught a seminar using a book with supplemental material on CD.  It required an operating system.

I'm sure there is also a PBS rule stating that CDs that come with books need to be included when the book is listed.   

 

Date Posted: 12/27/2007 1:52 AM ET
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How about adding a Swap-A-Mother-in-Law site? 

Date Posted: 12/27/2007 3:48 AM ET
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lol Ange!  (And you're right -- a search of all books, not just "posted" books turns up some Izzard stuff that was posted here in the past.  The listings remain forever, I think, even when the item is removed.)

Date Posted: 12/27/2007 10:15 AM ET
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Not true that if the CD needs an operating system to use, it's not postable.

Many, many books come with CDs as supplements.  In fact, I taught a seminar using a book with supplemental material on CD.  It required an operating system.

I'm sure there is also a PBS rule stating that CDs that come with books need to be included when the book is listed.   

 It has to accompany a book though, it can't be posted separately from the book.

How about adding a Swap-A-Mother-in-Law site? 

I suspect this would backfire, as everyone would post their MILs to get rid of them but there wouldn't be very many takers........

Date Posted: 12/27/2007 10:21 AM ET
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Not true that if the CD needs an operating system to use, it's not postable.

Many, many books come with CDs as supplements.  In fact, I taught a seminar using a book with supplemental material on CD.  It required an operating system.

Yes, I guess I assumed it would be understood that I was referring to the item being posted, not something that comes with a book. And yes, if a book says it comes with a CD, the help says you must include it.