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Subject: Do you suppose I'll ever get this book?
Date Posted: 8/18/2012 6:59 AM ET
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These are the "details" on a book that I reaquested exactly three weeks ago:

Request Date:
7/28/2012 12:20 AM ET
Will Mail By:
8/6/2012 11:00 PM ET 
Label Print Date(s):
8/8/2012 10:54 PM ET
Date Mailed:

8/8/2012 10:56 PM ET

I'm concerned because the mailer printed the label for  the request at nearly 11:00pm two days after it was supposed to be mailed and then marked it mailed two minutes after the label was printed. I don't have a large house but it would still take me longer than two minutes to retrieve the label off the printer and then wrap the book for mailing. LOL!

I have been a member here for a few years now and I know all about being patient and the wait time but there is something about these transaction details that make me feel like this is a book I won't see.  What do you think? And no, no communication from the sender at all and yes, this is a WL book with a WL a mile long.  I've been waiting for this one to rise to the top for nearly a year.

Date Posted: 8/18/2012 8:02 AM ET
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Some people do print the label and mark it mailed immediately.  Personally, I think it's a bad plan, but it's not an uncommon practice.  As for the mail by date, I think you have a 2-day grace period in which to mail the book after the date you said you would.  No reason to think you won't get the book at this point... Just note the date mailed when you receive it and it will be recorded in the sender's history. 

Date Posted: 8/18/2012 8:15 AM ET
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I hope you get your book.  I don't think people should mark it mailed until it is actually in the possession of the USPS. Being a newbie with a bad case of rookie-itis, I actually put it in my mailbox, look out my window to see when the mail carrier picks it up, then run back to my computer to mark it "mailed". LOL

Date Posted: 8/18/2012 8:18 AM ET
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I don't think there's any reason to think you won't get it.  They do have the 2 day grace period and they did use it.

 

I think the sender just logged on and realized ooooops! this is about to time out, and hurried up and printed and clicked mailed.  I do not think that they literally went to the post office at 11pm.  But they can easily have every intention of putting it in the mail the next morning.   They did wait until the very last minute, but I don't think you have any reason to worry that you will get it.  They PAID for the label.   So If I was them, I wouldn't suddenly just forget about it mailing now, they have invested the price of postage.  

Date Posted: 8/18/2012 10:04 AM ET
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I am a skeptic like you LeeAnn when I see those details. Hopefully the member just forgot and did get the book in the mail soon after that. Since there isn't much to be done about it until it gets closer to the lost date or the book shows up, I put it out of your mind and try not to let it bother you.

Date Posted: 8/18/2012 10:43 AM ET
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BTW LeeAnn, I like your avatar. I M UU 2.

Date Posted: 8/18/2012 10:52 AM ET
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Here's one I'm waiting on:

Request Date - 7.28.12

Date Accepted 7.28.12

Label Print Date(s) 8.5.12

Date Mailed - 7.31.12

I can't figure out how it was mailed 5 days before the label was printed.  I'm really looking forward to getting this one if only to find out.  Pat

 
 
   
 
 

 

Date Posted: 8/18/2012 12:41 PM ET
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What Melanie said    yes

I'm also a bit of a skeptic on a few of these transactions.  A few inconsistencies combined with the time lapsed...probably less than average chance you'll actually receive the book. 

When/if the book arrives, check the postmark/postage date.  I've received a number of books mailed late (over 7 days)...with counter postage.  Which for the newbies, is the most reliable indicator of when the package was actually mailed.

Date Posted: 8/18/2012 1:37 PM ET
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I wasn't thinking, I guess I just assumed if you printed out the address that you were buying PBS postage.  But you all are right, you don't have to do it that way.  So maybe postage was not paid for yet.

Date Posted: 8/18/2012 4:42 PM ET
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If you print PBS postage, can't you change the date on the mailing label? You used to be able to and I always changed it for a few days out because I didn't always know if I'd get to a blue box to drop it in.

Date Posted: 8/18/2012 10:54 PM ET
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If you print PBS postage, can't you change the date on the mailing label?

Yes, but if you already printed the label with postage, you can't go back and print another label with a different date.

Date Posted: 8/22/2012 10:45 AM ET
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It has been two weeks since the book was "mailed" and it hasn't arrived yet. My history shows that more than 90% of books coming to me arrive in 8 days.  Still plenty of time til it is considered lost in the mail by the system so I haven't given up hope, I'm just not holding my breath! LOL!

Date Posted: 8/22/2012 11:32 AM ET
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If you print PBS postage, can't you change the date on the mailing label?

It's been a while since I've mailed anything out, but I've never used PBS postage, nor the PBS DC option, and I could print the label anytime after I'd mailed it.

Sometimes if a book was taking extra long to arrive, I could 'print' the label and look up the address to see how far it was going. But I think that info is in the transaction archive now?

So if they're just printing the label, they could be looking to see where they sent it, or (like I did one time) to test out their printer when the site is acting funny.

(I don't know why, but Adobe liked to crash and burn on me every three or four months. So I'd have to reinstall it and test it on labels on books I'd already mailed.)

Date Posted: 8/22/2012 3:30 PM ET
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Remain hopeful LeeAnne, the book may arrive yet!  

USPS is often blamed for mail delays that are actually sender error, but they do have a number of legitimate delays of their own.  A VB swap I played last winter had a very delayed book (players must use DC so we could see the book had been mailed and had some enroute scans).  Then it just 'disappeared' for a couple weeks ...  about the time we feared it was gone for good the book reappeared and just squeaked home barely under the 'lost' date.

It can happen, hope your book arrives soon.



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Date Posted: 8/27/2012 8:24 AM ET
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I've sent over 600 books and how I do it is click print the label, grab the book, put it in it's envelope (I use these plastic envelopes so I don't have to duplicate effort by wrapping in plastic and then in paper) I print the label on an Avery label that's the right size for PBS, label the envelope, click mailed and then put it out for our mail carrier or walk the dog down to the mailbox.  Usually around 2am :)

There's nothing really nefarious about the time stamps, I'd go more by the member's history...some of us are on a REALLY opposite schedule from "normal" :)

 

Regina

 

Date Posted: 8/27/2012 1:20 PM ET
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I would not think that the printed and marking mailed so quickly as being a concern...I do that all the time. I mark my books mailed as I'm leaving for work in the morning and then drop the books in a blue box in front of the hospital where I work about 15 minutes later. Sometimes when I logon to mark books mailed, I'll get a last minute order and then do the print, wrap and mark mailed thing all within a minute or two of each other.

The bigger concern for me would be the printing of the label 2 days after the mail-by date...it used to be that you could hit the print label button by mistake and it would show as a new print date...but now, the date on the "label printed" part doesn't change if you just hit the button, it won't update unless you actually PRINT the label...and I guess given that it was only 2 days, i wouldn't necessarily worry about that either...if it was 2 weeks later and the label was reprinted THEN...that's when I would be really worried. LOL Hope you get the book anyway!

Cheryl

Date Posted: 8/28/2012 9:04 PM ET
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Still waiting....

Date Posted: 9/1/2012 8:11 PM ET
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So...what happens? The system is going to declare this book lost on Tuesday.  If that happens, will I get my credit back or am I out a credit?  if the book is way late (well, it's already way late!) but it eventually arrives, do I have the opportunity to mark it received? What if the postmark is days or weeks AFTER the details in the PBS system indicate? Hmmm....this is a first for me.

Date Posted: 9/1/2012 9:24 PM ET
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Yes, you get your credit back and you will go back to the front of the WL line if it was a wishlisted book. If it isn't, it will go to your reminder list, I believe (it's been ages since I had a book go lost too, trying to remember) and then it's advised you don't order from anyone else for a couple weeks at least. (Also, if it's a wishlisted book, I would put it on hold for a couple weeks to avoid getting double copies.) If it is eventually received, you do mark it received from your Transaction Archive. I believe you can find in the Help Docs about what to do if the postmark is clearly past the indicated 'mailed' date...I am not sure if you have to mark it received...I think maybe so UNLESS the order went to another person and you got another copy already. You had best consult with a guru up on the present-day rules to be sure. :)

 

Cheryl

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Date Posted: 9/2/2012 12:14 PM ET
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If it does show up you do have to mark it received, and should because without using DC that's the only way the sender will get credit. PBS will send you an email when it goes lost with instructions and some links if you want to follow up with the p.o. but they never find anything, especially without DC. It's unlikely the reason is they mailed it that late, people know it's impossible to hide that due to the postmark so I don't think it's a common occurrence. Much more likely the p.o. sent it on a journey. It's been happening an awful lot lately. 

I had 2 books go lost just this week with DC. They made it to my postal substation less than a half mile from my house and disappeared from there. I've talked to the main p.o. and my local station, no luck. They even told me they can tell who scanned them there because it's coded to the person who did it and they still couldn't find out what happened.