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Subject: If THIS edition doesn't have an ISBN ...
Date Posted: 2/5/2008 2:02 PM ET
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But the same book now has an ISBN (which I can look up on Amazon or wherever), is it OK to post the book using the ISBN? It seems better to me, since it would then show up correctly as being the same book if it's on someone's WL, but I'm new here and don't know the protocol.

Mostly what I have is old F/SF books which have been reprinted and now have ISBNs, so it's not a different edition of the text, just a different printing.

Date Posted: 2/5/2008 2:06 PM ET
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You must use the post-without-an-ISBN option. Using an ISBN that is not on the actual book you have is against PBS rules. It's all in the Help Center.

Date Posted: 2/5/2008 2:07 PM ET
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Really? Well, that's annoyng. :/ I guess I just won't post them then, I don't have the time to fill out that ginormous no-ISBN form.

Date Posted: 2/5/2008 2:08 PM ET
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No. If there is no ISBN on the book then you have to post it w/o one. I've noticed on a lot of older books the ISBN is not on the back cover but listed on the publlishing page.  Have you looked there? If still no ISBN then post it w/o one.  If it's a WL book you can post it in the book bazaar and on the genre's board. Put it in your signature. Most likely it'll get snatched up quickly.  The system is set up to send an email when a dif ISBN of a WL book has been posted so that might help too. I have that option turned off for me though. I was getting too many amails about books I only wanted in audio form.

Date Posted: 2/5/2008 2:10 PM ET
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I've posted quite a few books that don't have ISBNs. It doesn't take so long if you just do a couple whenever you have an extra minute.

Date Posted: 2/5/2008 2:10 PM ET
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Alice, welcome to PBS!  The above poster is right, you must post it without an ISBN.  What I would recommend is that you do this, then post in the Book Bazaar that you have posted this book without an ISBN.  If it is a wishlist book, there is a special thread in the Book Bazaar for this, if not, you can just create your own thread advertising the book.  I have had good luck with this- recently I posted a cookbook that had an ISBN, but it was coming up as paperback instead of hardback, so I posted it without the ISBN and advertised it in the BB.  It was taken within 24 hours.  You can also advertise your books in the forum that is specific for the genre of the book, and that way, those most likely to be interested in the book will see it.  Good luck!

Date Posted: 2/5/2008 2:13 PM ET
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Yeah, I'm not going to take the time to MEASURE books just so I can post them. I've got hundreds with ISBNs, I'll just stick to those and send the others to our garage sale.

Date Posted: 2/5/2008 2:15 PM ET
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... unless there's a way to post a book without filling in height, thickness, etc. If so, clue me in, because I couldn't find it.

Date Posted: 2/5/2008 2:33 PM ET
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Look the book up on Amazon and get the dimensions. I posted on w/o an ISBN one time and it only like a minute to measure it and fill out the info.    I'd rather get a credit at PBS than a quarter at a garage sale. But it's your book, do what you want.

Date Posted: 2/5/2008 2:44 PM ET
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I think I put "0" in for the measurements.

I measured the few I had, and then I spotted that many of the ones with ISBNs just had "0"s for the size--at which point I decided it wasn't worth my time to post the info that clearly wasn't needed, and wouldn't stick around after my book was gone anyway.

You could also just type up the titles and post a list in the Bazaar.  But I think you'd be better off posting them w/o ISBN than bothering with the Bazaar.  Unless you are offering a 5:1 or better deal, I think the Bazaar is mostly not useful anymore.

Date Posted: 2/5/2008 3:17 PM ET
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OK, I see now that only the top part is *required* .... for some reason I read it as the entire form had to be filled in, description and all. I can handle author, title, genre, and 0-0-0 for measurements. :)

Date Posted: 2/5/2008 3:22 PM ET
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It really isn't hard to fill in a non-ISBN that has an ISBN edition. You simply open a browser window to the ISBN'd edition and copy/paste into the Post a NON-ISBN page.

Then you copy down to your harddrive the cover and post it to your book also. I have found that especially with non-ISBN books, if you don't put a description and cover, nobody looks at it, and they will sit there forever.

Date Posted: 2/5/2008 4:13 PM ET
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I really don't understand why the form has the measurements anyway - they don't show up anywhere.

 

No. If there is no ISBN on the book then you have to post it w/o one. I've noticed on a lot of older books the ISBN is not on the back cover but listed on the publlishing page.

And if it isn't there, check the base of the spine.  On some older books, only 9 digits are printed, the final checksum digit was not included.  You can find out what the right 10th digit is by entering the 9 digits in the "post a book" field, then rapidly go through the possibilities until it turns green - 1 <delete> 2 <delete> 3 <bingo>

Date Posted: 2/5/2008 4:16 PM ET
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The measurements help the system determine the mailing weight.

Date Posted: 2/5/2008 4:59 PM ET
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Patty's right - so if you put 0-0-0 in your measurements and it's a heavy hardback, the system won't know it and the postage requirement won't be accurate.

Most of my books without ISBNs have been older book club editions and most of them have been requested fairly quickly.

Date Posted: 2/5/2008 7:37 PM ET
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OK, so it's just for the weight? I wish it asked for weight. Mine are all light paperbacks though, so it should be OK.

Date Posted: 2/5/2008 8:22 PM ET
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Just make sure you put in some kind of description, even if you just copy and paste from amazon.  I have posted tons of non-Isbn books and having a description really helps.