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Subject: Tag overload possibility?
Date Posted: 4/3/2008 1:15 PM ET
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Does anyone else see (or sees already) the issue of books with whopping tagloads such as: mom, 2/12, England, adolesence, memoir, TBR, humor, Xmas gifts, black interest, FL trip, London, travel, sequel?, race, poss purchase, never again - and a couple more.  Seems to me that many tags end up being user-specific.

 (my example above is having ALL of those tags be for the same hypothetical book)

 



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Date Posted: 4/3/2008 1:19 PM ET
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If people double-up on existing tags that are useful for general purposes (such as humor, memoir, etc), those tags would be pushed to the beginning of the tags display, pushing the one-time individual tags lower on the list.

So if you're browsing a book, take a moment to tag the book with some of the uesful existing tags. That will move those tags up to the front of the list.

For other ways to help making tags useful, please see my Tag Missions (links are in my sig, below!).

Date Posted: 4/3/2008 1:22 PM ET
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Many tags are user specific.  I've tagged all my RL and TBR books.  Now when I'm looking at someone's shelf for a BOB deal or something, I know that I either have that book already or that I've looked at it before and might be interested in ordering.

As the more common-general use tags become more popular, the personal ones will start to only be seen by the person who made them. 

They can be pretty useful if you're looking for book similar to one you liked or books from a series.

Date Posted: 4/3/2008 3:29 PM ET
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Mary it will now show you on the description page if a book is on your TBR, reminder, wishlist of BIR lists!

Date Posted: 4/3/2008 4:08 PM ET
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Yeah it did that after I tagged them all. 

I'm still tagging my reminder books because they're going to combine the lists soon. I don't want all my RL's mixed in with my WL.  So I'm going to delete those.  Lately I've just been tagging them and not actually adding them to my reminder list.   I'm going to delete most of my RL before they're combined. 

Date Posted: 4/3/2008 4:58 PM ET
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There will never be more than 15 tags showing for a book (unless you have some personal ones that are not in the top 15).

If you want the tags showing to be good ones, tag team with someone else, and find books that have personal tags showing, tag them with good tags (from Jane's tag projects) and be sure you both put the good tags on. Then all the personal tags will not show, except to the person that put them there.

Date Posted: 4/3/2008 5:10 PM ET
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User specific tags are AOK according to the site rules. 

Date Posted: 4/3/2008 10:58 PM ET
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Tags are MEANT to be helpful to an individual user....

Date Posted: 4/3/2008 11:27 PM ET
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Angela said, "Mary it will now show you on the description page if a book is on your TBR, reminder, wishlist of BIR lists!"

My only complaint with that is I don't always want to flip over to the description page...I tag all my books and will continue to do so...it makes browsing so much nicer.

 

Date Posted: 4/3/2008 11:48 PM ET
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It says it on the main page where all the issues are listed. I noticed that today when I was tagging some Julie Garwood books.  It had one listed as being on my Transaction Archive that I know I don't own and have never owned.  I don't remember requesting and then cancelling it but sure enough, right around when I first joined there's a request w/a cancellation around 2min later. It must have been me since it's a book readily available in the system. 

Date Posted: 4/4/2008 6:56 PM ET
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That doesn't bother me so much as having 100s of books with the same incorrectly spelled tag (these same books also have the correctly spelled tag, too)



Last Edited on: 4/4/08 6:57 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 4/5/2008 8:12 AM ET
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Janelle,

Believe it or not the the incorrect spelling may be on purpose. To make someone's tag stand out to them. I know it bothers me to. 

Date Posted: 4/5/2008 9:32 AM ET
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When tags first came out, I made special tags for my wishlist, reminder list and TBR.   When I finished this project I decided that I needed to give back to the group, so I promised myself that I would add 3 group tags for every book I post.

Before I post a book from my TBR pile, I click on it.  Make sure I delete any personal tags.  Reenforce any existing useful tags.  Try to come up with 3 new useful tags.  Then I post the book.

When I have nothing going on, I like to click on a topic that isn't as big as I think it should be and reenforce tags on the books listed there.  Lately, I've been slowly working the children's books awards.  I also keep track of the tag missions and try to use those when coming up with my useful tags.  Honestly, I have only read one or two books that I couldn't come up with 5 or 6 different tags to use.

When people complain about tags, my first thought is always "so what are you doing to fix it".

Kerry

Date Posted: 4/6/2008 2:28 AM ET
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I pay no attention to any of the tags.  I know, I guess I'm weird.  They just aren't very helpful to me.  And I don't really  have the time or energy to spend on putting a bunch of them on myself.  I don't use them.  Therefore I have no complaints about them.  :)

Date Posted: 4/6/2008 2:11 PM ET
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There's actually a way to turn off tags if you don't care to see them.  Go to My Account: Settings: Tags and click them off.  I personally really like the tags for both general information about a book or series and also for my own personal information.  I've been having fun with Jane's Tag Missions (http://www.paperbackswap.com/forum/topic.php?t=98108).  I think one of her best missions, though, is to "double up" on your favorite tags.  Re-type a good or favorite tag about a book to ensure it's one that is most likely to show up.

Date Posted: 4/6/2008 2:19 PM ET
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I agree with you Stephen!  I don't see the point of tags so I'm really glad PBS gave us a way to turn them off.  I don't use them, don't see the point of them, and they annoy me.  So glad I can turn them off.

Date Posted: 4/6/2008 6:54 PM ET
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Betsy:

I understand what you're saying (I have suspected that on other tags), but this tag is a literary award, so I don't think it's done on purpose.

Oh well!

Date Posted: 4/6/2008 7:00 PM ET
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What's the link to the tag?  If we go in and double enter the correctly spelled award, won't that eventually help push the misspelled tag off the radar?

Date Posted: 4/6/2008 9:09 PM ET
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Stephanie, eventually yes, But only after each book gets over 15 total tags. And if the misspelled tag shows alphabetically before the correctly spelled one, people might hit the wrong one anyway, and we would probably never get them all tag-teamed out!

Date Posted: 4/6/2008 9:13 PM ET
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I like tags especially when it is telling me what # in a series it is so if I've found #5 looks good, I can find out what #1 is and put that on my RL or WL.  but the user specific tags sometimes bug me.  I try to go in and tag all the books in a series when I discover a new one

Date Posted: 4/6/2008 9:17 PM ET
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Sherry, unfortunately, that's probably pretty accurate.  It was a thought, though!

 

Date Posted: 4/6/2008 9:40 PM ET
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I guiltily admit that it's me who is responsible for the misspelled tag. I posted "Newberry" instead of "Newbury" when I started the awards tag mission, and off people went. I'll post a specific mission to have folks correct this if they discover they have the misspelled tag in their personal tags.

Date Posted: 4/7/2008 12:20 AM ET
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Jane:

I hope you don't think I was personally attacking you or anyone who posted the Newberry instead of Newbery tag. No offense was meant at all!

Date Posted: 4/7/2008 12:24 AM ET
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Leslie:

I try to tag series. Also, if there are two related books I tag "sequel to BLAH BLAH BLAH" and "SUCH N SUCH is its sequel".