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Subject: I have a "Tag" question....
Date Posted: 3/30/2010 5:52 PM ET
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I have lots of unpostable books that I have added to my "reminder" list to see if there is any wishers. If there are wishers I would like to add them to the unpostable WL thread. However, there are so many of them that they are going to clog up my reminder list that I also use for books I run across that I would like to read in the future. So, the question is can I use a personal tag like "unpostable" in order to sort them more efficiently? Or would that be considered inappropriate tagging? I dont want to clog up the PBS system or make someone think that particular book already in the system is an unpostable copy. I hope that made sense...... Any suggestions? Thank You

Date Posted: 3/30/2010 6:09 PM ET
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You can tag them, but not with 'unpostable', since that'll give just the image you suggested. You need to come up with some personal code to use as a tag, so that it'll mean something only to you and people will know it's a personal tag.

Date Posted: 3/30/2010 6:10 PM ET
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There is an unpostable tag already in use that I use to keep track of my unpostable books so I'm sure it would be ok for you to use.  Once you use it and then go to your My Tags it will show how many users and then which books are tagged by you.  I wouldn't worry about people thinking that book in the system is unpostable, I'm sure people will know that is just being used as a "placeholder".

Please ignore because I was wrong.  Tags should be personal and not generic about a specifc book i.e. unpostable, stained, ripped, etc. 



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Date Posted: 3/30/2010 6:10 PM ET
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If you do that you need to personalize the tag somehow. I do the Damaged Virtual Box and I have a personal tag I use for that Ozzie Unpostable (we all tagged our unpostable TBR books so we could let each other know which books we wanted). Ozzie is my dog. so anyone looking at it would know it's someone's personal tag. If you just use Unpostable-it's mroe likely that someone else would use that tag as well thereby mixing their books in with yours and it's more likely to get flagged by someone as beign an inappropriate tag.  So do something like Terra Unpostable or some other thing that you'll remember. 

Date Posted: 3/30/2010 6:13 PM ET
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The problem with just using Unpostable is that some people tag a book like that and think that means they can post it and send it out-because they tagged the book.  So generic tags like "water damaged" or "no dust jacket" should not be used.

I used to just use the note feature for my unpostables but I never need to pull up a list of just them.  I only tagged mine recently for the damaged books box so I would have a better idea of what to read that someone would want.

Date Posted: 3/30/2010 7:43 PM ET
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You can also add a "note" to a book, which only you can see.  All the notes on your books look the same (when the books are on your reminder list, for example) but when you hover over the note, you can read what it says. 

Date Posted: 3/30/2010 8:00 PM ET
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 was just going to say, use a "note".  That's what I always use :)

Date Posted: 3/30/2010 9:52 PM ET
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but you can't sort with notes right?

Date Posted: 3/30/2010 10:53 PM ET
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No you can't sort with notes.  So if you want a list you can just bring up that only has those books, you'll have to tag them.  Just make it personal and not just plain Unpostable.

Date Posted: 3/30/2010 11:37 PM ET
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Linda (Angeleyes) , you need to read the guidelines and rules for tags, it specifically says to NOT use such words as unpostable. It could cause you to find yourself in a time out until the get a chance to talk with you personally to explain it more clearly than the help center does. Please do not use words that could be attributed to other copies in the system, as people will NOT realize it is only meant for your copy. This is strictly stated on the Help Page for  Book 'Tags'

Examples of tags that are personal and only you understand them would be something like "tb_un"  Your initials and the letters un for unpostable. Just a suggestion, you can use anything you like, within the guidelines of not using specific types of words or ideas as discussed in the Book Tag page linked to above. I use my initials and then a lot of different things. Some of them being my WL that hasn't been actually put on my WL yet (sln_wl) my tbr list (sln_tbr) that type of thing. Hope this gives you some ideas and there are some other ideas on the help page too.

ETA: Linda, I looked at this again, and decided it sounded bossy of me to tell you to GO READ THE HELP FILE hahaha, sorry, was not intended to be nasty at all, I was simply meaning to point out something that you had obviously missed, not accuse you of deliberately doing somehting that wasn't allowed. And I wanted to make sure you didn't find yourself getting in trouble if you were to use the word unpostable in your tags. Sorry again, if I sounded rude.



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Date Posted: 3/31/2010 5:14 AM ET
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Thanks everyone for the input. I'll use a secret code!!

I did read the help docs, but I did not see anything that specifically said anything about "unpostable" and it is a current tag with some 76 books. I was affraid it might be misleading, so I thought I'd better check before slamming the system with some 50-100 books tagged that way.

Date Posted: 3/31/2010 6:41 AM ET
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Sherry, thanks for that heads up.  I hadn't read the help docs for tags in a while so I'm off to read them again and make sure I don't make any more mistakes.  Ugh, just like a TG not to read the help docs.   *smack smack*  Normally I only use the tags for my RL and TBR pile (for the swaps).  I'm going to go back to using the journal for unpostables.

Date Posted: 3/31/2010 7:38 AM ET
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I did not see anything that specifically said anything about "unpostable"

Terra - That tag is not specifically mentioned in the Help Docs but it's in the same vein as the ones below:

Examples of Inappropriate Tags:

Do not order, cover has small tear, No Dust Jacket, some yellowed pages, autographed, etc.

If you see the 'unpostable' tag in a book, please report it as inappropriate by clicking on this symbol:

Date Posted: 3/31/2010 11:30 AM ET
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If you go look at the items that do have the word 'unpostable' in them, you will see that the items themselves ARE NOT POSTABLE, they are not referring to the condition of the item, it is an item that is not allowed on PBS. It's used in a completely different context. You using it to mark your unpostable books would affect all the other copies of that book that ARE perfectly postable. The tags on unpostable items do also effect all items, and that's ok, because no matter how many copies, they are all unpostble. Hopefully that explains the difference to you.

I'm sorry I didn't point out the difference in the uses of the word in tags.

Date Posted: 3/31/2010 12:05 PM ET
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I have been reporting the word unpostable as improper on anything. I don't think it is appropriate to use on NOT postable items since the word itself has a completely different meaning on PBS.  People using unpostable to indicate NOT postable on PBS should use something different like the "illegal ..." tags. IMO improper Tags are any tags about condition that could be misconstrued as applying to all books, "unpostable" without any personalizing  should not be used on any book in the system at all. 



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Date Posted: 3/31/2010 5:09 PM ET
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Cool, Thanks for the clarification. I originally thought it was a bad idea but the active "unpostables" Tag sort of threw me.  So I'll use a secret "personal" code and not unpostable. Or maybe I'll just try the Journal thing........

Date Posted: 3/31/2010 5:17 PM ET
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Agree with you Melanie. 'Unpostable' has a specific meaning here on PBS. If it's used on items that cannot be posted on PBS, another tag should be used.

Date Posted: 4/1/2010 10:00 AM ET
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It may be your opinion that it is not proper,  PBS doesn't have a problem with the tag, since it is still there after being reported xx number of times, and that is how tags get removed is by having them tagged xx number of times.



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