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Subject: Tags!
Date Posted: 4/11/2008 9:53 PM ET
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Hey! Let's all go tag some books! Just pick five, and add appropriate tags. I know there are lots of pbs'ers out there working hard at the tag task, but sometimes I feel like I'm the only one tagging! :-) Join me this evening?
Date Posted: 4/12/2008 9:27 AM ET
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Of course, I'm in!

Done, done, done, done, annnnnnnnd done.

What's next? :)

Date Posted: 4/12/2008 10:47 AM ET
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I'm tired of people (whoever they are) that add things in the TAGs that is already in the book information...like the author for pitty sake...that is just 100% totally annoying...

OR

the TAG that says book 2 in series and the Title of the book says it is book 1....DUH...waste of TAG space!!! and argh...annoying



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Date Posted: 4/12/2008 11:51 AM ET
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Yeah, that is bothersome, but the only thing one can do about that is to try to overcome the situation with better tags.

Subject: A tag I find helpful
Date Posted: 4/12/2008 12:37 PM ET
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Authors with more than one series, tagging which books go with which (or are stand alone) - the sequential number would be helpful, too, but there are authors where I care about one series, but not the other(s).

Date Posted: 4/12/2008 3:08 PM ET
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I tagged a few thousand Nobel prize-winning author books, so you're not alone! :-)

Date Posted: 4/12/2008 3:14 PM ET
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If you want to help out with tags, I have a whole slew of missions that have suggestions for them! Check the links in my sig, or look up "Making Tags Useful" in the message board search! :)

Date Posted: 4/12/2008 11:08 PM ET
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Jane, I am a HUGE fan of your tagging missions. But...sigh...even with all the hard work that has gone on as a result of your ingenious and useful missions, there just still seem to be so many untagged books. I am continually surprised that 99% of the tags on the books on my wishlist and shelf were added by me. You'd think I'd overlap with other pbs'ers more... (Did I mention that I LOVE your missions? Because I do! I will go look up some "back missions" and do some more tagging.)
Date Posted: 4/13/2008 3:14 AM ET
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Of course, Michelle, if you have tagged a book, and someone else tags it with the same tag, that won't be obvious to you.  It'll show up as your tag.  That said, you're probably right :-)

Subject: What are tags?
Date Posted: 4/13/2008 10:31 AM ET
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Hello, all!

I am a new member. Just added my first few books and am trying to figure out what the "tag" icon means. Could not find it listed in the FAQs. Was a bit hesitate to click on it for fear I would do something I could not undo. These postings give me a pretty good idea of what it is but is there an explanation listed somewhere? I do not have a lot of books to list right now (have been donating them to the public library before learning about this site) but I promise to tag them when I find out what it's all about.

Thanks,

retired2read

Date Posted: 4/13/2008 11:06 AM ET
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Welcome to our cult.  :)  I don't know where the "official" information is, but here's my run down on tags.  There are two different types of tags, personal and what I call useful.  Not that the personal ones aren't useful, but they tend not to be useful to the entire group.  Personal tags can be anything and everything.  I have a unique way of numbering my TBR pile.  I'm trying to track how many books come through my hands in a year and how much "back reading" I'm really doing on my TBR pile.  I also have a unique way of tagging books on my wishlist.  I do this to get an idea of how fast books are moving. 

The Useful tags are different.  These are being used by others as ways of searching for new books to read.  Want to read books based in Vermont?  Look under VT or Vermont and see what pops up.  Like a specific character but have no idea what other books they might be in?  Search that way.  Looking for historical romances?  Search that way.  As readers, we are all always looking for another way to discover a new author or series or genre.  Searching with the tags is great because it's information that might not seem important to publishers, so the imformation might not be put in a place where it can be used for searching the general data base.  Plus, it allows us, as the readers, to make note of any book that might be on some random list.  From New York Times Best Seller List to the PBS list of crappy books.  :)  Just look up a tag and you and see all the books with that tag.

The most important thing to know about tags is that the 15 most popular tags will show up for each book.  So right now, with tags in their infancy, all the personal tags and useful tags are all mixed together.  When you go to tag a book, it is very important to tag that book with the EXACT same useful tags in order to reenforce those tags.   If I tag a book as cozy, but you tag it as cozy mystery, both of our tags only have 1 vote each.  But if you came on the book and marked as cozy, that tag would have two votes.  Plus, you could add the tag cozy mystery, bloody, ewoks and elephants if you wanted.  Then, a third person looking at this book might decide that all those tags are relavant and use all your tags, plus mine and add some of their own.  So we are slowly building a great way to search.

Besides, there are a couple of people here that have really great reminder and wish lists.  Long ones too.  They are fun to search.  :)

Kerry

Date Posted: 4/13/2008 4:28 PM ET
Member Since: 12/16/2007
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Question from another newbie on tags. "Look under"? Look under where? The Advanced Search? I'm not finding a "Tag" option to search under. Tx,

Date Posted: 4/13/2008 4:54 PM ET
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I tagged a bunch of books with the following tags:

  • Chick lit
  • Early Evanovich
  • Native Americans
  • Pulitzer Prize
  • Pulitzer Prize Fiction
  • Alternative Medicine
  • Alternative Healing

I tried to use tags that were already applied to the books whenever possible. 

For the Early Evanovich books, I tagged all the books I could find that would fit this tag.  (Christy, When I tagged the Janet Evanovich Loveswept books as Early Evanovich so that PBSers would know at a glance which of the books she wrote before the Plum series, the Full series, and the Motor / Metro series.  I probably should also have tagged them all with her pen name as well.  Maybe later today!)

 

Date Posted: 4/13/2008 8:24 PM ET
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Pat click on your Community tab at the top of the page and then click on tag cloud, it will take you to a page with the top tags.

Date Posted: 4/13/2008 10:24 PM ET
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"Question from another newbie on tags. "Look under"? Look under where? The Advanced Search?"

At this point there is no way to search tags efficiently, but you can make a tag on a book on your shelf that you want to search for, such as Vermont, as suggested above, and then click it to see what else is tagged with that tag. Once you've located other books with that tag, you can remove it from the sample book that you used from your shelf.

To read about tags in the Help Center, the information is found by going to the BROWSE HELP DOCS under the Help Center tag above, and clicking on

WHAT'S NEW!>>NEW FEATURES>>Book 'Tags'

Date Posted: 4/14/2008 7:45 AM ET
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Duh!  Thanks for answering that question for me Sherry.  Yes, there really isn't a search option, but more a follow that tag/trail option.

Kerry

Date Posted: 4/14/2008 8:05 AM ET
Member Since: 12/16/2007
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Thank you Angela and Sherry.  The Tag missions sound like a great idea.

Date Posted: 4/14/2008 9:53 AM ET
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Thanks so much for all the great information. I have started researching existing tags for my books and hope to become a good tagger.

Date Posted: 4/15/2008 11:35 AM ET
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The tag missions ARE great! Check them out. :) I have been scrolling through the list of "books posted today" and adding tags to ones i can identify easily. It's amazing how easy it is to tag a book you've never heard of just with the title (and series information, if it's there) to go on. It's realatively easy to figure out what's non fiction, chick lit, etc.
Date Posted: 4/15/2008 1:46 PM ET
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I've joined the tagging mission. But yet again a question from a newbie.  What does the tag "done" signify?

Date Posted: 4/15/2008 1:53 PM ET
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It's a personal tag, and can mean pretty much anything, but most likely that the person is finished with the book or has completed something for it (like uploading an image or submitting an editing change).