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Subject: Thoughts on Anita Blake vampire hunter series
Date Posted: 11/3/2008 10:55 PM ET
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Just wondering if anyone else had a hard time getting into the first one, Guilty Pleasures?  I have quite a few in the series and am almost through with #1.  It just doesn't seem to be holding my attention like some other paranormal books.  The series has so many books and many are heavily wishlisted so people like them.  Do the books change much as the series goes on?

Date Posted: 11/3/2008 11:37 PM ET
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They change alot as they go along. I enjoyed the first in the series, but they get better.  I know I've talked to several people on Shelfari who all said they had a hard time getting into the first one but liked the others better, I say give the second one a shot and then if you still don't like it then give up.



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Date Posted: 11/3/2008 11:39 PM ET
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Thanks - I kind of figured the later ones must be good because she keeps writing them and people keep buying them!  I think part of the problem may be that I've been reading C. Harris' Sookie Stackhouse series and I also started the Argeneau vampire series.  Both are lighter, less dark than the Vampire Hunter series.

Date Posted: 11/3/2008 11:44 PM ET
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Okay.  Remember that these books started coming out back around 1993.  Way before there was a paranormal genre.  At this time there was Laurell and Anne Rice.  Almost all the other vampire fiction was horror, not sex and horror.  No comedy and horror.  The first Buffy movie was in 1992.  The TV show wasn't until 1997.  At that time these books were what was available.  Anne Rice and LKH basically started the whole supernatural horror with romance movement.  Add in Joss/Buffy and the idea of women who kick butt started.

That said, the books have changed a great deal.  LKH got rid of her first husband and her editors.  The writing did change.  Much more sex and much less plot.  I feel like the later books have become a way to have socially acceptable soft porn and light bondage.  Which seems to sell quite well.  I still read them.   But I no longer respect LKH.  Partly because now there are better authors who now write in this area. Once these books were groundbreaking.  Now I recommend Charaine Harris over LKH.  (She actually edits her work.)

 

Date Posted: 11/4/2008 12:04 AM ET
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The Diana Tregarde books by Mercedes Lackey are very good too and often overlooked. She actually wrote them before Guilty Pleasures was ever published (Burning Water was put out the first time in 1989). I actually consider them an excellent example of early 'paranormal' fiction that combined fantasy, horror, and a touch of romance.

I liked LKH's early Anita books because they reminded me of the Diana Tregarde books -- though I'll admit I didn't find her (LKH's) protagonists nearly as interesting.



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Date Posted: 11/4/2008 12:08 AM ET
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Thanks Emily - I didn't realize the early books came out so long ago.  I guess it makes sense; I just never did the math:)

Thanks Rena - I'll look into Tregarde.

Date Posted: 11/4/2008 12:27 AM ET
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Mercedes Lackey's Tregarde books sometimes show up as YA.  I believe there even was a reissue aimed at YA.  

Subject: Nightseer
Date Posted: 11/4/2008 12:51 AM ET
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LKH had a fantasy book before Anita.  Which I do recommend.  Lots of action.  More character development.  Sits on my shelf next to Burning Waters and Children of the Night.

Date Posted: 11/4/2008 9:26 AM ET
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I agree with Emily, Anita Blake, for me, turned into porn. I loved them at first, but it ended. And they seemed to get more and more complicated--in order to keep up you would have to re-read and re-read. Who has time? It's to bad, she really is a good writer.

Date Posted: 11/4/2008 9:45 AM ET
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But they don't really get all into the sex until much later in the series from where you are at, the first 7 or 8 don't have alot if any.

Date Posted: 11/4/2008 2:20 PM ET
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You're right, Angela, that's why I liked them. Then she started sleeping with just about everyone, sometimes two at a time, and I got sick of it.

Date Posted: 11/4/2008 3:40 PM ET
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When does the heavy sex start? I just finished the 3rd book last night so obviously still in the action oriented beginning lol. I'm just curious when to expect it. I've already gotten all the way to book 14 on my TBR and book 15 is en route to me.

Date Posted: 11/4/2008 3:48 PM ET
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it starts after Obsidian Butterfly, which i think is book 9.

Date Posted: 11/4/2008 10:48 PM ET
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I couldn't really get into the first one too much...until about the end.  I couldn't put the second book down though.  I'll be reading the 3rd here pretty soon.  I am reading 7 series at once right now though, that way I can rotate between series and not get bored with one.  I tend to do that, lol.  Luckily I have a good memory and I can keep all the story lines seperate in my head.

 

 

Date Posted: 11/5/2008 7:30 AM ET
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I, too, loved the early books. They then became, like everyone else said, mostly sex featuring bondage, group sex, etc. and that became the basic plot. For me anyway, the later ones in the series are a great disappointment and I haven't read the last three or four.

Date Posted: 11/5/2008 8:42 AM ET
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The firts one was tough for me to get into. they pick up in Circus of the Damned. I lost interest after Obsidian Butterfly, the last "good" book in my opionion-I gave up every one of my AB books (had the whole series doubled-dont ask lol) except that one because its almost a stand alone story and just well done. I think LKH's issue was she got popular with a certain crowd and went the sex and pissaz direction. Her right of course, but I as a reader would rather invest time and money in other authors now.


If you like paranormal, try the KiM Harrison books-Rachel Morgan series. First book is tough to get into and the heroine can be a PITA, but the rest are really good.

I LOVE the Ilona Andrews books-Kate Daniel Series. Just started-only 2 books out. Again as usual first book in the series always is slow but the second was amazing. Anxiously awaiting the 3rd.

Also love th Mercy series by Patricia Briggs: MooN  Called, Blood Bound and Iron something. 4th book coming out next year.



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Date Posted: 11/5/2008 9:12 AM ET
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Nobody has mentioned LKH's Merry series. I really liked the first one or two, and then they turned into mostly sex. Is anyone reading J.R. Ward's Brotherhood? Now that is my absolute favorite.

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Date Posted: 11/5/2008 3:36 PM ET
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I just got the first book in this series.  I am just curious (and don't hit me) is this more of a 'girl' series?  I am pretty broad-minded in my reading and like stuff a lot of guys don't, but I don't usually get into romance at all.

Also, Tanya Huff's Blood series started in 1991...definitely paranormal.  Maybe a little horror-ish, but the vampire is a good guy.

Date Posted: 11/5/2008 3:59 PM ET
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And the vampire writes bodice rippers.  My bad.  Need to look at the back of the shelves where my older keepers are.

I can't imagine that LKH would fit into "girl" series.  Considering how quickly both AB and MG hop into bed after O Butterfly.  And neither one hangs out with any women.  Not my choice for chick lit.   I stand by my statement that LKH is writing sex, not romance.  She did start out writing with a touch of romance.  Now she questions if she likes a guy enough to have sex.  Moved well into the friends with benifits zone.  Sex.  Without enough foreplay to make most women happy.  But I do read all of them.

Date Posted: 11/5/2008 6:57 PM ET
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I love LKH and all her books. I just got SWALLOWING DARKNESS in today. YAY me ! sometimes I skip through the sex parts. I get tired of hearing about it. I prefer the parts where she kicks @$$ .

I want to be Anita Blake when I grow up.

 

** And so what there's not enough foreplay to really make a woman happy in those books. Guess what. I have been married twice and not enough foreplay is a fact of life if woman let it be. I have to give my husband the " Don't make me push your @$$ off the bed talk every few months when he forgets what forplay is. And I personally get tired of reading about BJ'ss and oral.

Date Posted: 11/6/2008 9:46 AM ET
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Matt...which series are you talking about? I have a male friend who reads all of these books because he likes the paranormal part--it doesn't get so boring for him--and skips over the sex. I think his wife reads the sex parts. I prefer the kick-ass parts and the good guy saves the day.

Date Posted: 11/7/2008 7:38 PM ET
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A friend of mine lent me the series.  I was really into it until the sex really came on thick.  The book Micah wasn't even really a book, more of a short story that they put in a large print and double spaced it to be thicker like a book.  Maybe you could call it a Novella if you really stretched it.  I'd say its a series worth reading, but just skip over all the orgies.  I'm pretty open minded but the orgy scenes kind of grossed me out to be honest.

And I do think that Anita is an idiot and just needs to be Jean-Claude's babe and quit resisting his charms.  But hey thats just my opinion.

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Date Posted: 11/7/2008 8:16 PM ET
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Matt...which series are you talking about?

I was asking about the Anita Blake series.  I did start Guilty Pleasures and it doesn't seem bad...though the strip-club thing at the beginning was a little weird.  I understood the purpose, but if there are a lot of scenes like that I'm not sure I'll like the series much.

Date Posted: 11/7/2008 11:26 PM ET
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I'll mention that my husband actually read and liked the Anita Blake series until about Obsidian Butterfly. He tried reading the next book but didn't like the direction or all the endless sex scenes. He felt it was tedious and boring with not nearly enough action.

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Date Posted: 11/8/2008 9:29 AM ET
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Maybe I am a little strange, but I don't necessarily like books that rely on 'action.'  I like learning about who characters are and how they fit into the world at large as much as the actual plot.  I think maybe this is because I do a lot of writing myself...I like to see how a story is constructed and how characters are developed.  Disjointed action does not make a great story in my opinion.

I think this is why I liked the Harry Potter books, but hated the movies.  The books are long and some people find them tedious.  I personally love the way it dwells on everyday life and creates a different world for the reader.  The movies obviously don't have enough time for that, so the action scenes are crushed in, one after another without giving a clear framework.  Just my opinion.

I guess that was long enough.  Can you tell I was an English major?  The point for Anita Blake is, sex will not necessarily drive me away, but butt-kicking action will not make me like it, either.

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