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Subject: Tip for finding Wish List books that are ready to be ordered
Date Posted: 5/7/2009 8:40 PM ET
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If you have a long Wish List you may find this Tip useful to quickly determine which wishes are ready to be granted

1) Get to the first page of your Wish List

2) Type Ctrl-F (this activates your browser's Find command)

3) Type "weeks" into the search window to scan for books that have an estimated number of weeks

4) Keep using Find-Next until you have found everything (or nothing) on this page, then go to the next page and repeat the procedure

Date Posted: 5/7/2009 10:03 PM ET
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Firefox has a Highlight-All button you might use instead of Find-Next.

Here's a link to a picture to show how it works: http://i701.photobucket.com/albums/ww19/pvc_photos/Capture-4.jpg

Date Posted: 5/8/2009 7:54 AM ET
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Date Posted: 5/8/2009 8:03 AM ET
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Ok, I'm confused...what's the purpose of doing this?? Just sort of an FYI thing or something? I have a long WL, but there's only about a dozen books out of 199 that are posted enough for an estimate to be listed, and I already know what those are...and my whole WL is on autorequest already, so not sure what being able to do this type of search does for me...

Cheryl

Date Posted: 5/8/2009 8:54 AM ET
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I guess it depends on your wishlist.  I have a few series of books (for example Black Dagger Brotherhood).  When I put the entire series on my WL many of the books get an estimate of 1 to 3 weeks.  So many of them that I will receive the books out of sequence.

Using this I can quickly go through my WL and move part of the series back to my Reminder List.  Here's link to a picture of that series on my WL showing three in that series that I will use Convert-Checked to move back to my Reminder List:  http://i701.photobucket.com/albums/ww19/pvc_photos/Capture-5.jpg

ETA: My WL was Resorted by Author first to group the series into one place



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Date Posted: 5/8/2009 9:00 AM ET
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90 books on my WL.  2 coming due in 3 weeks and 1 in 4 weeks.  The rest.................who knows.  Not very encouraging.  But that was a cool function.  Thanks.



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Date Posted: 5/8/2009 9:38 AM ET
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Using this I can quickly go through my WL and move part of the series back to my Reminder List. Why on earth would you get out of line just because of a generic guess. The system has no way of giving you a realistic idea on when the book will be posted to you, that guess is based purely on how many copies were posted in the last 7 days. The chances of the same number being posted again in the following weeks is almost nil. I guess moving books that have no one else wishing for them won't be a big deal, but if there is a line at all I can't see why anyone would give up their place based on such an inaccurate number.



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Date Posted: 5/8/2009 10:20 AM ET
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To me the week-to-week estimates do seem consistent (at least for these large volume series).  I have moved books in the Black Dagger Brother several times and never regretted losing my place in line.  I even moved them to my WL today in order to create this example and then moved them back to my RL.  It has been my experience that once a book hits 10 (or 20 or 30) copies a week you will get it very quickly.

The Virgin River series by Robyn Carr (and a few other series) were out of sequential control for me to put the entire series on my WL.

I also use this technique for inbound control of other books that are not part of a series.  I recently got some deals so currently there are 30+ books heading in our direction.  So I found a few 1-weeks estimate books I had been waiting for but the line was not long.  These went to my RL and now there are copies available for me to order at the time of my choosing.  Again no regrets about moving these to my RL.

I’m thinking this really does depend on each individual situation.  When the new WL hold is installed then I don’t have to do this anymore.

ETA: remove excessive blank lines



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Date Posted: 5/8/2009 10:54 AM ET
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When I said after the new WL hold is installed then I don’t have to do this anymore, I meant I don't have to flip between RL & WL.  I think I will still be scanning for which WL books to put on Individual hold.

Date Posted: 5/8/2009 11:20 AM ET
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Since we're still on the FIFO, old WL, it doesn't make any sense to get out of line for a WL book.

Putting a book in the RL isn't going to get the book to you at all, let alone get one to you faster, nor get one posted to the system. Bowing out of line just moves the line along, but gives you no advantage.

And I agree with Melanie, the WL estamate as it is now is not realistic. The sytem has no crystal ball and can't realistically say when a book will or will not be posted. In the last couple of weeks I've sent out around 40-some books, most of them WL'd. There's no way the system could see that coming. So getting out of line based on an estimate still doesn't make sense.

And if you want to read a series, then I don't see any benefit to bypass a book just because you might get it out of sequence. If you want the set, you get it as it comes because some of the later books may not be as available if sales were down and not as many produced. So you get what you can, when you can, and if that last WL'd book in a series isn't showing up and you want to start, then I find that's a good time to actually order it.

The estimated dates just aren't that good to bypass anything I want. Life, and book posting, is too unpredicatble to miss out on a WL'd book.

Date Posted: 5/8/2009 11:50 AM ET
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Yeah, I kind of agree with most people here.

I don't see the benefit of bouncing back and forth between my wishlist and my reminder list. I guess I'm just not too worried about the scientific end of things and when I receive a wishlist book I'm thrilled no matter what it is. :) If it's on my wishlist I WANT the book no matter what order it comes in. I couldn't imagine taking myself out of line for most of the books I'm waiting for!! It'd be another year before I got back up to the front! lol

I also wishlist well before the publication date many times so it would be no benefit for me to remove myself from the wishlist after having been on it for several months before the book is even published.

I use my reminder list for books I'm either looking for in a deal or those that I probably want sometime in the future.  

I never knew there was so much thinking or juggling involved in wishlisting a book! lol

 

Date Posted: 5/8/2009 12:46 PM ET
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I also can't see the point of putting books on the reminder list...but my wish list is definitely different than yours. Very few of mine have estimates, and the MOST wishes granted in one week on any of them are 5.  And most of my WL books were put there months before the book was released and most often I'm near the front of the line, often with dozens or hundreds of people behind me, so there is no way i would remove those to the RL just to be sure I got a series book in order! When I acquire a series book out of order, I just set it aside til I get the earlier one. But that's pretty easy to do when you have a TBR of over 500 books. LOL

Like others, my RL is mostly wishlist overflow and series books that are already in the system that I will need soon.

Cheryl

Date Posted: 5/8/2009 1:07 PM ET
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Okay, I agree that this may not benefit most ppl.  Or that for most ppl it may be too much trouble to micro manage the arrival time of your inbound books.

Here’s why it works for myself and Marilyn.  I don’t read these books!  Marilyn does, and she can only read one (paranormal, vampire, shape-shifter, time-travel) series at a time, or else they get confusing.  While I’m sitting in front of my computer it doesn’t take very much extra time for me to scan and organize the arrival time for our inbound books.  I might add that we do have consensus about what she wants to read next.

In the example I used above for the Black Dagger Brotherhood (this one http://i701.photobucket.com/albums/ww19/pvc_photos/Capture-5.jpg ) I don’t see any downside in losing my place in line (58 of 58), (9 of 9), and (24 of 24).  I intentionally want to be further back in line for these because the-reading-sequence-is-important for this series.

Though, I do not agree that the estimate cannot be used for purposes of organizing the arrival time for your inbound books.  It has worked very well for me.

Dan (for Marilyn)

Date Posted: 5/8/2009 1:15 PM ET
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Cheryl: >>I also can't see the point of putting books on the reminder list...but my wish list is definitely different than yours<<

Yeah Cheryl, our WLs are very different.  I have only just begun to WL books months ahead of time.  So if I don't manage my inbound I will get a bunch of books.  Not to mention the 30+ on their way from deals.

Dan (for Marilyn)

Date Posted: 5/8/2009 2:16 PM ET
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Susan W:>>I never knew there was so much thinking or juggling involved in wishlisting a book! Lol<<
Until recently, I never knew there was so much pre-planning involved in wishlisting a book well before the publication date.

As a result, I am having to rely on thinking and juggling as a workaround.  :)

Date Posted: 5/8/2009 3:38 PM ET
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Cindy;  We seem to be looking at this with opposite goals (and don’t take it personally if I tell a few jokes in my reply).

Since we're still on the FIFO, old WL, it doesn't make any sense to get out of line for a WL book.  Putting a book in the RL isn't going to get the book to you at all, let alone get one to you faster, nor get one posted to the system. Bowing out of line just moves the line along, but gives you no advantage.   I don’t want an advantage.  I want to receive the book later, not sooner.

And I agree with Melanie, the WL estamate as it is now is not realistic. The sytem has no crystal ball and can't realistically say when a book will or will not be posted. In the last couple of weeks I've sent out around 40-some books, most of them WL'd. There's no way the system could see that coming. So getting out of line based on an estimate still doesn't make sense.    Unanticipated posting of WL books would only make the book arrive sooner.  For my purposes of receiving the book later, this is all the more reason to step out of the WL line.

And if you want to read a series, then I don't see any benefit to bypass a book just because you might get it out of sequence. If you want the set, you get it as it comes because some of the later books may not be as available if sales were down and not as many produced. So you get what you can, when you can, and if that last WL'd book in a series isn't showing up and you want to start, then I find that's a good time to actually order it.    Hey, you don’t have to tell me how to order a series.  I have a wife!  (get it? :))

The estimated dates just aren't that good to bypass anything I want. Life, and book posting, is too unpredicatble to miss out on a WL'd book.    The estimated dates are working well for my purposes of delaying some of my inbounds.