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Subject: Do UBS's routinely do this?
Date Posted: 4/4/2008 2:07 AM ET
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Is it at all common for UBS's to snip a corner off the front cover of a PB book?  I recieved a book that had a stamp from a UBS on the inside front cover, and about one inch of the upper right corner of the front cover was snipped off (not ripped, obviously cut).  I hadn't seen this before, and was wondering if there is a reason why a UBS would do this.  Also, would this automatically make the book unpostable?  I'm not sure if this falls into the "one-inch tear" category.  Thanks in advance!

Date Posted: 4/4/2008 3:57 AM ET
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Yes, it's done often enough for PBS to include it in the guidelines for the books posted :)

From the Help Center:

Book Condition Guidelines

  • some used book stores cut out a small part of the cover; if the amount missing is less than 1 inch, this is OKAY
Date Posted: 4/4/2008 4:33 AM ET
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My favorite UBS snips off the tip of books, when they no longer want to accept, or circulate that particular book. 

Date Posted: 4/4/2008 8:40 AM ET
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Book Condition Guidelines

  • some used book stores cut out a small part of the cover; if the amount missing is less than 1 inch, this is OKAY

Not to hijack the thread as this is along the same line...how exactly do you measure that 1 inch when they cut at an angle across the corner?  Do you measure the depth of it at the longest portion or what?

 

Date Posted: 4/4/2008 9:33 AM ET
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I would think no edge of the triangle should be more than an inch. The angle left should be no more than an inch and it shouldn't be missing more than an inch of cover along either of the edges. That's just how I would do it anyway.

Date Posted: 4/4/2008 9:57 AM ET
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I've not purchased some WL books to post because they had the corner snipped...I guess Melanie maybe you are right, at least it sounds reasonable..if no portion (either edge or depth) are greater than 1 inch it should be ok.  Maybe we'll get some other insightful thoughts on this.

Date Posted: 4/4/2008 10:33 AM ET
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I think they do that if they don't want the book traded in again.  Sometimes the store I visit will put a black line across the top of the pages.  Usually those I'll donate to Goodwill as I don't know if anyone would be upset receiving them. 

Date Posted: 4/4/2008 10:56 AM ET
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Nothing new to add, just chiming in that my USB also does this on their "clearance" books.  These books are both marked down from the USBs "regular' price and they won't take them back.

I have also always viewed it as Melanie does...no area of the "snip" should be more than 1".  The people as my USB get terribly carried away, IMO,  usually cut close to 2"!

Date Posted: 4/4/2008 12:37 PM ET
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Like Beth L. said "my USB also does this on their "clearance" books.  These books are both marked down from the USBs "regular' price and they won't take them back."

OR they put a black marker slash across the cut side.

Of course I have not been to the ONLY UBS in Savannah, GA in several years. 
She is so expensive (charges 60% of original price) and only has books that have been out upteen years. The manager is so rude that she does not smile or greet you when you walk in. It's obvious that she is only working there due to threats of starvation (or sleeping in a box under a bridge) !!

 

Date Posted: 4/4/2008 2:55 PM ET
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I think they do that if they don't want the book traded in again.

That's exactly what one UBS I go to told me when I asked about it.  She said they would lose money on those books (usually older romances and mysteries) so it's to keep them from coming back. 

Date Posted: 4/4/2008 3:01 PM ET
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The black mark along the edge is postable as long as it's no so bad that it's on the text pages. But the black or red slash along the top or bottom is ok. Even Amazon will do this to their bargain books.

The thrift stores and UBS around here are stamp happy. The local one stamps a clover on the bottom of all it's books. Even the new ones since it has a small section of new books.  Then they stamp their name on the inside somewhere where it doesn't ruin the text.



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Date Posted: 4/4/2008 3:25 PM ET
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The Bookworm in Boulder CO has an interesting policy - they write their prices in the upper left of the flyleaf in colored pencil.  Their policy is to almost always take back books in trade that came from their store (unless condition has become bad).  Books they no longer want have the price marked through with a black marker "X".  They put those on sale at a steep discount for awhile (hardcovers 5 for $10), then periodically donate the remaining ones to thrift stores.  They charge 50% of cover, give 25% of cover in trade credit, and one can get books just on credit.

Another bookstore in the area puts a black marker slash across the front cover on books they don't want back.

A third uses a "not tradable at ..." stamp on the front flyleaf.  I occasionally see books with a clipped corner, but it is quite rare.  (Clipped price corners on hardcover dustjackets are somewhat more common)

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Date Posted: 4/4/2008 4:20 PM ET
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My UBS is another that snips the corners of books.  And sometimes they too get carried away and snip more than 1".  I hate when that happens!  I'd much rather they mark the edges with black marker...



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Date Posted: 4/4/2008 4:53 PM ET
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We used to have a ubs that would not sell most of the Harlequin series if they were not the current year or other older worn paperbacks in their regular stock  but would take the whole front cover off and sell them for .10 or .15 each.  They were still readable but I wish they would have just clipped the corners.



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Date Posted: 4/5/2008 4:57 PM ET
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Wow, you learn something new every day!  Thanks everyone!  The USBs around here must not do that, as I've never seen it before and thought it was odd.

Date Posted: 4/7/2008 10:04 AM ET
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Many mainstream bookstores use the black slash across the edges as remainder marks--these are OK as per PBS rules.  They look like a single black line that you see on the edge of the book when the book is closed.  Most of mine that have them have this mark right near the binding at the top of the book.

Date Posted: 4/7/2008 10:49 AM ET
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One UBS I used to frequent used a heart-shaped hole punch on their bargain books so they would not take them back.

Date Posted: 4/10/2008 6:19 PM ET
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Were the coverless books the UBS was selling clearly used books?  For several years now, paperback books have carried a warning that states:  If you purchased this book without a cover you should be aware that this book is stolen property.  It was reported as "unsold and destroyed" to the publisher, and neither author nor the publisher has received any payment for this "stripped book."

If the UBS just has a bunch of diffent books without covers and they're only selling them for a few cents, everything is probably on the up and up, but it still seems like a thoughtless policy considering the warning that's in the books.  Besides, who really wants a book without a cover, even for only 10 cents?