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Subject: Is UPS cheaper then USPS?
Date Posted: 8/14/2008 11:58 PM ET
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This is the 3rd time I've received books via UPS from 2 members here and the 1 from a different site. Is UPS shipping cheaper then USPS shipping? 

Just wondering, because UPS is just as close as the PO and their hours work better for me.

Date Posted: 8/15/2008 12:45 AM ET
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Not that I know of.

Date Posted: 8/15/2008 9:36 AM ET
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I've gotten a few of those too.  I noticed though on the ones I got that the sender was a business.  My thought is that they are using the company account and have negotiated cheaper rates with UPS through the company.

Date Posted: 8/15/2008 4:44 PM ET
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Even at the cheapest rate via UPS, the package needs to be at least 3 or 4 lbs to make UPS cheaper than the USPS.  Media Mail via the USPS is the best bargain around.

My guess would be convenience for the sender.  It may cost a couple of dollars more but maybe that's worth it to them to not have to go to the PO.

Subject: More than likely....
Date Posted: 8/15/2008 4:46 PM ET
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It's a matter of improperly using a "business" account.

Since a 2 pound box of books from USPS is $2.58 (media mail) shipped anywhere in the USA.

Using UPS Ground for a 2 pound parcel to my house (which is classified as Rural) because I have a rural carrier, starts at $7.20 + rural delivery fee $1.63 + fuel surcharge $0.91 = $9.74. This calculation was from a 500 mile distance using a prepaid drop box. Yes UPS does have discounts for large business but not big enough to be THAT feasible.

Can you see a good reason for anyone to mail a book swapped on PBS using UPS Ground who is actually paying for it?

It sounds like a good way to get fired for theft.

Kevin

Date Posted: 8/15/2008 5:08 PM ET
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One of the places I worked allowed us to send and receive UPS through them, we just paid the cost, so it may not be theft.  They did the same for FAXes and books we bought using the library's discount.

I would personally be peeved if someone sent me a PBS book UPS.  Although my UPS guy is a treat in brown shorts and I don't mind chatting with him, I have to sign for everything from UPS and FedEx.  It may just be the option of the sender because this is an apartment building but it bites when I know I am waiting for a big delivery, even when it's narrowed down to the day for me. 

(Alternately, I hate DHL.  Dell uses them for shipping ink cartridges.  I never get a tracking number and they don't even require the driver to ring the doorbell.  I've had more than one of their deliveries not reach me.)

Give me the good ol' USPS any day. 

Date Posted: 8/16/2008 2:31 AM ET
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I have sent books a few times by UPS.  It was MY choice and since it's not against the rules here, I don't see how anyone can complain.  AND I don't work so don't worry - I am NOT stealing anything.     

Date Posted: 8/16/2008 6:24 AM ET
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I know of a few members who own the business they use to ship their PBS books---it's a convenience for them and their choice!

Date Posted: 8/16/2008 12:30 PM ET
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Even owning the business may not be kosher if they're writing it off as a business expense. Personal expenses are not deductible on a business tax return, so unless the owner is reimbursing the company or properly coding the expense as a distribution it's against the tax code.

Scott out.

Date Posted: 8/16/2008 9:41 PM ET
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I work for fedex (reallty really kinkos -wait i mean fedex kinkos wait  nnow we are called fedex offfice)

and I have sent some PBS via fedex (sometinmes it got there faster)

 

Date Posted: 8/16/2008 11:02 PM ET
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Even owning the business may not be kosher if they're writing it off as a business expense. Personal expenses are not deductible on a business tax return, so unless the owner is reimbursing the company or properly coding the expense as a distribution it's against the tax code.

Scott out.

ever heard the phrase de-minimus fringe benefit?

Date Posted: 8/18/2008 4:07 PM ET
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A sender on this site sent me a book via FedEx  because she was snowed in for several days.  When I PM the sender to let know I wasn't in that big of a rush and it was okay to mail to me after the "mailing date".  The sender wrote back that her daughter was using her work account to send the "late" books out.  To me that was such a waste of money but it was the sender's choice.  I've worked for several companies that allowed the employees to use the corporate account and they deducted the personal amount from the paycheck.  We just needed to indicate "personal" on the department code and it was a nice convenience to have.  I would never mail my books out via FedEx or UPS ground though...too expensive.

Date Posted: 8/20/2008 4:47 PM ET
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I've worked for several companies that allowed the employees to use the corporate account and they deducted the personal amount from the paycheck.  We just needed to indicate "personal" on the department code and it was a nice convenience to have. 

Ditto that. 

At DH's company, he's used FedEx for personal shipments with the owner's permission.  When he went to pay them back, they said to forget about it, that it wasn't worth the paperwork since we do it so infrequently.  My company allows you to open up a personal UPS account under the company umbrella so that we get the corporate rate...which can be up to 70% off the published rates...we are a big company and use UPS a lot, and this is considered one of our benefits.