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Subject: Unpostable or not?
Date Posted: 12/9/2011 11:18 AM ET
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I have a copy of "A Vintage Affair" by Isabel Wolff.  I got it used (not from PBS).

It has a less than 1" tear at the corner where the cover meets the spine- that also includes the first 2 pages.  The first 5 or so pages of the prologue are slightly wavy too.  Not stiff like they got wet, just wavy.  I'm only about halfway thru the book, but so far it seems to be OK otherwise.

 

This ISBN has 42 wishers.  Should I post it or book bazzar it?  If I put it in the Bazaar, can I ask a credit for it because of the damage?

 

Date Posted: 12/9/2011 11:42 AM ET
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To me, wavy pages alone makes it a questionable post, especially with 42 wishers I'd put it in the bazaar.

Date Posted: 12/9/2011 11:51 AM ET
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I wouldn't risk someone RWAPing it.  I'd offer it in the bazaar.  Yes, I'm pretty sure you can still ask a credit for it.

Date Posted: 12/9/2011 12:32 PM ET
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Book bindings today are cheaper than they were in the past, and often brand new books from the bookstore are wavy.

If there are no other signs of water damage (texture change, faint stains), then that is probably still postable.

Rips on the cover of less than one inch are also postable. If the two pages involved in the rip are not text pages, then those pages could be missing from the book altogether, and the book would remain postable ... so in this case, I think your whole book is still postable.

However, if you don't want to take the chance, you can offer it in the Book Bazaar for a credit, which definitely is allowed.

Date Posted: 12/9/2011 1:01 PM ET
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OK,  Thanks for your input!

I just wanted to see if you guys had the same thinking I was about it.  The wavy pages are what make me nervous about someone RWAPing it.

 

Think I'll just list it in the Bazaar.

 

Date Posted: 12/9/2011 1:52 PM ET
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I agree with Sara, the only sketch condition for your book are the torn  pages behind the cover.

More and more often we are seeing publishers use cheap paper the quickly develope waves when exposed to air.  It has little or nothing to do with water/liquid damage.  If waves are the only critera we may soon find new books not postable at PBS.  Fortunately, swappability guidelines do not prohibit wavy pages.

Someone recently gave me two Scholastic books.  They appear brand new (possibly read once) no marks, stains, or cover creases whatsoever...mint condition except for those dreaded wavy pages.  There's nothing in Swappability rules that makes these books are anything but 100% postable.

ETA - Of course Stacia, the decision is entirely yours.  Best wishes finding a new home for your book.



Last Edited on: 12/9/11 1:53 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 12/9/2011 4:02 PM ET
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Thanks!

Date Posted: 12/9/2011 7:10 PM ET
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 the two pages involved in the rip are not text pages, then those pages could be missing from the book altogether, and the book would remain postable ... so in this case, I think your whole book is still postable.

I would disagree with this. The rules on torn pages just say "no torn pages". I agree that they say non-text pages can be missing, but it makes no distinction between text and non-text in the torn page rule. Unless you remove the torn pages you will risk a RWAP by sending a book with torn pages.



Last Edited on: 12/9/11 7:10 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 12/9/2011 10:07 PM ET
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All things being equal, I would rather have the book with the ripped but not-required-to-be-in-the-book pages, than have the book without them.

I see your point, though. Some might complain about it.

Date Posted: 12/10/2011 10:12 AM ET
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What Melanie said -- the Help Center says "no torn pages", period, making it unpostable.