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Amy
Subject: Do you use PBS to swap or add?
Date Posted: 8/4/2008 3:22 PM ET
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I ask this because I think it's weird that people use this website in order to find new to perfect-condition books to add to their collection instead of swapping.

I joined with the intention of swapping only.

I prefer to buy a new book that I want to add to my collection than order a used book from a member here and hope it's in good condition.

You would think that books would be in good condition by PBS' postable-book standard, and usually this seems to be the case (I've never had any problems) but sometimes I see RCs that make me wonder about why people are really here and requesting books.

What do you think?

Date Posted: 8/4/2008 3:25 PM ET
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Depends. If it's a book I collect then I keep them, if not I swap them.

Date Posted: 8/4/2008 3:26 PM ET
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I do both! But I don't really care if my personal collection is "perfect" anyway... I want to *read* it, not just stick it on a shelf and look at it :) As long as it meets regular PBS standards, it's good enough for me. Well... Except if it's a harcover I would prefer the dust jacket.

PS, I *love* your little piece of toast and happy castus. Is that TokiDoki?

Amy
Date Posted: 8/4/2008 3:27 PM ET
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It's not to say that I wouldn't keep a book I ordered from here if I loved it enough, but I'm just not in the habit of collecting that many books.

Amy
Date Posted: 8/4/2008 3:28 PM ET
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PS, I *love* your little piece of toast and happy castus. Is that TokiDoki?

Thanks! I'm not sure where it's from, actually. I was looking for something to put in my signature and came across the image while searching my computer files. Who knows when I saved it or from where. =)

Date Posted: 8/4/2008 3:29 PM ET
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Amy, I agree with you.  If I want a "keeper" book, I will usually just go to the bookstore and buy it.  I like PBS for "swapping" to get some of the hard to find, older book series.

Luckily, I haven't had any problems,   But I have received a some very picky RC's a few times and I'm always very careful about not sending out books that don't meet the guidelines.

Date Posted: 8/4/2008 3:31 PM ET
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I swap. Having said that, I still want a book that is in really good condition with no water/liquid damage or other major tears, creases etc. I take good care of my books and I like to receive books that have been well cared for.
Amy
Date Posted: 8/4/2008 3:37 PM ET
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LeeAnne - I'm not saying the book shouldn't be in good condition. This is a given and if members follow PBS' guide for posting books, the books you receive should be in good condition. But, they won't necessarily be in perfect-to-new condition.

I also take good care of the books I read and all of the books I've sent out and received a credit for are in good condition.

I just think that it's strange that some of the members I've seen that use this site are looking for keeper books that are in almost perfect condition, when this is clearly a swapping site.

Date Posted: 8/4/2008 3:39 PM ET
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I get books for my hubbie, parents, son and myself.  He typically keeps the ones I get for him unless he "upgrades" them.  He has a big travel shelf and he has a bizillion travel books on our wishlist.  So... if a new ones becomes available, he will post the older one.

For me, I typically get "keepers" or deals.  Most of the books I get on deals, I read and repost.  The "keepers" about 10 per year, I keep, but don't care much about perfection.  As long as its intact for 1-2 re-reads per year for quite a few years, that is all I am looking for.

For my son, I get books he might like now... and repost later if the condition is good enough, otherwise they go on my freebie list.

I will buy interesting looking books as Goodwill to help build my shelf to earn credits.

Rick B. (bup) - ,
Date Posted: 8/4/2008 3:44 PM ET
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I swap - as soon as I'm done reading, it's posted on my shelf to go out the door.

I think most people don't, though - because very, very few of the books I've sent to people have been re-sent. I think 2 out of 26 books I've sent out in the past year have gone on.

Date Posted: 8/4/2008 3:48 PM ET
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I do both. Many of the books I wishlist here are keepers. There are hard to find used or out of print so this is a way I can "shop" in many more used books stores - have the other members on the look out. I'd say the majority of what I have posted into the system I had originally bought, not received from here.

I am much pickier on the books I swap than the ones I keep. I am willing to put up with some staining/cleaving for a book I will just have on my shelf, but I can understand people that will reread them over and over not wanting it to get to them on their last read.

I also think a lot of people asking for new/like new are doing that to weed out the really bad stuff. They'd accept something not perfect, but because they have received stuff well below posting standards, they decided set the bar really high.

Date Posted: 8/4/2008 4:04 PM ET
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Everything leaves this house after I read it.    

Date Posted: 8/4/2008 4:27 PM ET
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I just think that it's strange that some of the members I've seen that use this site are looking for keeper books that are in almost perfect condition, when this is clearly a swapping site.

I am not so sure that this is the case with people who have RCs...even those who have overly picky RCs.  Many of those people have been burned in the past by receiving unpostable books, so they create RCs just to avoid that.  It's not that they necessarily want to keep the book, it's that they want to be able to swap it again.

For the record, I have no RCs, could really care less about the condition of a book as long as I can read it, and I keep many of the books I get here.  I tend to keep the books I like, swap the ones I hate and hope one day to have a nice little library of my favorites.

Date Posted: 8/4/2008 4:37 PM ET
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I don't read a lot of fiction, and the non fiction on my WL is mostly going to stay on my keeper shelf.

The fiction I get is always reposted after I read it. Some of the non fiction is, but I refer back to the majority of my non fiction books on a regular basis when writing papers, or just thinking things over, or when someone asks me a question about pregnancy, birth, breastfeeding, etc. (I am the "resident expert" on these things in my circle, and I keep a lot of these books to loan out to friends who need the info.)

All that said, I have no RCs.

I don't have the money to buy all of the books for my keeper shelf new, and even if I did, why would I want to when I can get them here eventually?

I buy books at thrift stores that I spot as WL books, and that I want to read, so that more than makes up for me not reposting the non fiction I get for my keeper shelf.

It seems like you have a problem with people getting books from here to keep instead of to repost, and I really don't understand why. You get a credit either way, right? If the RC is too strict for your liking, you are always welcome to decline it.

Amy
Date Posted: 8/4/2008 4:45 PM ET
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It seems like you have a problem with people getting books from here to keep instead of to repost, and I really don't understand why. You get a credit either way, right? If the RC is too strict for your liking, you are always welcome to decline it.

That's not it. I am fine with people using this website as a way to find books to keep (even though I think there are other websites that you could use to find books to keep) I'm sure I will do it at some point (what can I say? I love books!), even though it's not my intention to do so. I prefer swapping books to keeping them, which is why I joined a swapping site and not half.com or something like it

And I can see from the few posts here that people are finding keepr books, but the condition isn't a big deal, as long as it's readable, which is cool. But ,I just think it's weird that a lot people I've seen who want keepers want the books in brand new condition (which I understand is not ALWAYS the case) and they're getting these books from a swapping website, where the books are more than likely used.

Date Posted: 8/4/2008 4:51 PM ET
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I understand. I guess I just haven't run upon any super picky RCs asking that the books be close to brand new (yet).

For anyone reading this this thread that only wants like-new books, there is often a thread in the Bazaar on "giftable" books. Member will list which books on their shelves are in giftable (like new) condition. I will so search and see if I can find it.

Date Posted: 8/4/2008 5:09 PM ET
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Rick sez:

<<I think most people don't, though - because very, very few of the books I've sent to people have been re-sent. I think 2 out of 26 books I've sent out in the past year have gone on.>>

It could just be that things are buried in someone's TBR mountain.  I know I've got books in there I've had over a year, waiting for me to be "in the right mood" to read them, and I send back out nearly everything I get.  :-)

Cheers,

Catt

Date Posted: 8/4/2008 5:21 PM ET
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I keep my books, but I'm not looking for new or perfect-condition books.  The PBS guidelines are good enough for me.  I actually prefer vintage editions and since you can't exactly buy old books at the Barnes & Noble it's easier to get most of my books here.  I shop the local used book store occasionally, but the selection here is bigger, especially considering the book stoer isn't big on paperbacks.  My first book collection was largely older used books and I've always preferred it that way, that's why the Swap has been such a perfect and addictive source.  I'm taking a break soon, though, because my TBR is ginormogantuan.  In a little over a year I've managed to sure up what has to be at least 75% of my total lifetime library, though I might be underestimating my bibliomania.

Date Posted: 8/4/2008 5:55 PM ET
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Depends on the book. I keep the majority of the nonfiction (mostly military history) I get here because I use it for reference, but I repost almost all of the fiction. All I expect is that the book meets PBS rules.



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Date Posted: 8/4/2008 6:14 PM ET
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I keep only the books from two favorite authors. The others get punted when I'm done in one way or another.

Date Posted: 8/4/2008 9:48 PM ET
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"I think most people don't, though - because very, very few of the books I've sent to people have been re-sent. I think 2 out of 26 books I've sent out in the past year have gone on."

Rick, how do you know that very very few of the books you've sent have been re-sent?

L. G. (L)
Date Posted: 8/4/2008 11:34 PM ET
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I keep them if I deem them a "Keeper" otherwise I trade them back in.  I sometimes request specific books for my collection, usually HCs.

The only thing I ask is that books meet posting guidelines.  Water or liquid damage of any kind is NOT okay - it put the rest of my collection at risk of mold.

I have over 1200 books- mainly non-fiction.  They are all in good to excellent condition, and I hope to keep them that way.  My DH probably has as many books as I do.

 

Date Posted: 8/4/2008 11:44 PM ET
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Date Posted: 8/5/2008 1:24 AM ET
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I dislike buying books full price. I will do it, if i have to, but i'll look for a book for over a year in every yard sale, thrift shop, and UBS i come across before i'll do it. I have to REALLY know i am going to love the book. I am cheeeeeeeeeaaaap when it comes to buying stuff like books, cd's, and video games. And DVD's too i suppose.

And i order a lot of books i would never find at a book store.

I was at a UBS yesterday, and it wasn't one of the cheaper ones. I got two Dragonlance books there that were on 'sale' for half the cover price. The cover price of these books was 3.95 because they were older books. I guarantee you if i got brand new reprints of them at Borders, they'd be 7.95. I am glad i got them for 2 bucks apiece. I don't want to pay 8 dollars for one, because i am not sure if i am going to LOVE them, or just enjoy them. They may or may not make it to my keep shelf.

I look for the same types of books here. I got a whole collection (minus one i already had) of one series of books that i know for sure i can't find at a new bookstore.

So.... it all depends. We have reasons of why we don't just swap them all back out. =)

Amy
Date Posted: 8/5/2008 11:18 AM ET
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That's the fourth time you've repeated that, so I'm not sure if anyone CAN say something to make you understand this is clearly not true that this is a swap only site, or if by repeating it, you hope to make it true.

I don't even think you read what you quoted correctly. I merely think it's odd for people on here to expect all of the books they're going to get to be in "like new" condition, since the website is named PaperBackSwap.

Don't take it as a personal attack; I understand that people used this website to find keeper books and maybe I didn't make that point as clear as I could in my OP.

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