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Subject: Can we use
Date Posted: 8/16/2011 2:44 PM ET
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Sunday as a mail by date????

Date Posted: 8/16/2011 2:47 PM ET
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Sure - I have a grocery store down the street, and if I wanted to mail a book out on Sunday, I could just go in there and do so.  Mail is picked up on Sunday, and once you've done your part, it's mailed.  Pat

Date Posted: 8/16/2011 2:53 PM ET
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Probably Bertie.  I've had books time-out on Sunday so it appears the PBS automatic system does not differientiate between days of the week (or acknowledge that Sunday is an unlikely mail date).

Date Posted: 8/16/2011 3:33 PM ET
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Yes, I only mail on Sundays (well, usually). And I often pick that as my mailing date.

You can pick holidays, too.

I mail from my Post Office, but using the APC machine in the lobby, which is open 24/7.

I don't think that Sunday is any less likely than Sat at 10pm, for example. If PBS were going to take away Sunday as a option for clicking on the "Book Mailed" button ....  where does it end? You would only be able to click on the "Book Mailed" button at hours of the day when the post office is open, I guess.

The date and time of the "Book Mailed" button marks the exact date and time that the "Book Mailed"  button is clicked on. It has never, and will never, mark the exact time that a book leaves the hands of the owner and enters the custody of the PO.  Neither people who mail the book, then come home from work and mark it mailed 9 hours later, or people who mark it the book mailed, and then stick the book in a blue bin 9 hours later ... are using the button to accurately convey the exact moment that the book reaches the Post Office. Unless people with smartphones are logging in and pushing the button at the exact same time that they drop a book into a blue box or mail slot.



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Date Posted: 8/16/2011 5:48 PM ET
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I can only get to the post office on Monday but I have so many books that I have to package up, but can't until I can print the labels.  The date now is for Sunday can I use that but not mail until Monday????

Date Posted: 8/16/2011 6:03 PM ET
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That depends on your local branch.  Some will.  Some won't.

Date Posted: 8/16/2011 7:20 PM ET
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Technically you have 2 days after your mail by date to actually mail before the transaction is cancelled so yes, you can say you can mail by Sunday and mail on Monday.

Date Posted: 8/16/2011 8:53 PM ET
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But isn't the question if the post office will accept it?  PBS will.

Date Posted: 8/16/2011 9:12 PM ET
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Bertie,

I think what Emily is saying is that if you are using printed postage, you may run in to the "stale postage" issue if you wait until Monday to post your packages.  But, if you can remember to change the postage date to Moday, that should solve your problem.

And you will still be in the 48 hour grace period that PBS allows for, so you should be OK.

Date Posted: 8/16/2011 9:52 PM ET
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Yes, selecting Sunday and not mailing until Monday could be a problem if you use printed postage because Monday will not be an option for the postage and you may end up with stale postage and the post office not accepting the postage. Most will accept it within 24 hours of the date, some will not accept it if it is for anything other than the date you are handing it to them on. If you are printing a large stack of books and you don't know how your post office handles electronic postage I probably wouldn't risk it. I have dropped mine in a bluebox after pickup and never had any problems so I know mine handles them ok.

Date Posted: 8/16/2011 11:31 PM ET
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What Melanie said. One book with stale postage might slip by, but you said you're doing a whole bunch, so I'd be wary of putting a whole load of books with stale postage in the blue box, particularly with the number of post offices that appear to be going "rogue" with regard to Media Mail rules these days.

Date Posted: 8/17/2011 1:15 AM ET
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Stale Postage will depend on if your Postal branch is stickler for such things, some are very picky (others don't seem to notice at all).

Date Posted: 8/17/2011 2:44 AM ET
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If you are taking the books by the Post Office, you can ask them to add a zero-postage meter strip to correct the date. 

If you are dropping them in a blue box, as long as they'r'e dropped in before the first pick-up on Monday, your Sunday postage will be valid.  If you drop them in after the first Monday pick-up, they may be returned to you.  I know of one blue box near me that has a 2:00 p.m. pick-up.  It saved me one day when I couldn't mail until noon or so the day after the postage date.

What is the significance of the postmark date on the Wrapper Settings page?  Does it matter what date I choose there?

  • Yes, it is important to choose the date properly--you need to mail the book by that date.
  • You cannot change the postmark date after you have downloaded/printed the wrapper.
  • If you mail AFTER that date, you can go to the PO and have a new metered $0.00 strip with that day's date applied to the package.
  • It is okay to mail it earlier than the date; your package may be returned to you if you mail it after that date.
    • If you put it into a collection box after the last day's scheduled collection, then the package will be accepted with the previous day's date when the next collection happens on the next day.
  • If you are into legalese, here are the USPS regulations on this ("indicia" = postmark):
      • Mailpieces bearing a complete date in the indicia must be deposited or presented on that date, except that pieces entered after the day's last scheduled collection from the post office or collection box may bear the actual date of entry or the date of the next scheduled collection from the post office or collection box. When authorized by USPS, presort mail accepted after midnight may bear the previous day's date. If the mailer knows that the mail is not to be deposited or presented on the date in the indicia, the mailer must use a date correction indicium under 4.4.1. (from DMM, 4.5.2 Mailing Date Accuracy and Mailing Periods)
Date Posted: 8/17/2011 8:29 AM ET
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I am only printing with DC not postage does that make a difference??

Date Posted: 8/17/2011 10:37 AM ET
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Yes

Date Posted: 8/17/2011 11:30 AM ET
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If you aren't printing the postage, then you wouldn't have to worry about dated postage and you will be fine as long as you get the books marked mailed by the end of the 2 day period to mark them mailed.