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Subject: Using Vacation Hold followed by individual hold? Massive amount of books to
Date Posted: 2/16/2010 8:54 PM ET
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I just cleaned out the bookcases and I have five full double shelves of books to post.  I can't afford to mail them all out at once if the majority are wishlisted (there's a good chance at least half of them are).  I don't want to have to enter in the ISBN for each book more than once and I don't want to have to switch books between lists. 

Would it make sense to put my account on vacation hold, enter all the books in, then put them all on regular hold and take the account off vacation hold? That way I could then take the books I can afford to mail off hold as I'm ready for them? I have one book due to be mailed out tomorrow to another member- will putting the account on vacation hold affect that transaction?  I'm just looking for the easiest way to get all the books on my list without having to repeat anything.

Also, what is the best way to treat unpostables?  I see many members offering a free unpostable with any order.  Is it best to do that or if the unpostable is wishlisted should I offer it in the bazaar for a credit provided whatever damage it has it minimal?  I know the answer is probably whatever I'd prefer to do, but from experience do unpostables posted for credits actually move?

Date Posted: 2/16/2010 9:00 PM ET
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Putting your account on vacation hold will not affect any transactions already in progress.

The idea of doing vacation hold, individual hold, and then switching books as you're ready to send them might be a good one for you.  When you put books on individual hold, you can see if they're wishlisted by looking at your shelf.  Just remember that if you put books on individual hold they lose their spot in the FIFO line and will be returned at the end of the line when you unhold them.

As for unpostables, it's all up to you.  Unpostables for credits usually only move if the books are wishlisted - if they're not wishlisted, you'd probably have better luck offering them as freebies.

Date Posted: 2/16/2010 9:10 PM ET
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It took me a second to get what you're trying to do, but it makes sense now :)  That should work perfectly as far as I can tell. 

Date Posted: 2/16/2010 9:11 PM ET
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Thanks for the reply!  I figured I'd take any book that wasn't wishlisted off hold so they'd move through the FIFO line, and take the wishlisted ones off as I can afford to send them or as I need the credits. 

Date Posted: 2/16/2010 9:14 PM ET
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Sorry!  I shouldn't even be doing this tonight because I'm so overtired but I want to get it done and over with.  I may be a little less coherent then normal.  *grins*

Date Posted: 2/17/2010 12:23 AM ET
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Well, it worked.  Out of the 55 books I managed to post tonight (there are more but I have to read them one more time before posting), 21 are wishlisted.  I also have 27 unpostables, with 8 of them being wishlist books.  Not too bad.  Most of the unpostables have mild water damage to one or two pages or the cover.  That'll teach me not to read in the bathtub!

Date Posted: 2/17/2010 12:50 AM ET
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I think that's a great way of controlling the number of orders you get at a time! I have tons of books on hold because I just can't bear to part with them. Not yet, anyway. The ironic thing is that I joined PBS to get rid of a bunch of books. If I decide to post them en masse, I will be using your idea- thank you for sharing it!

P.S. I just ordered a couple of books from your shelf! Lurking in the forums is a dangerous pastime of mine- I keep clicking on members' profiles and then clicking "Order This Book."

Date Posted: 2/17/2010 6:13 AM ET
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That's a great idea!

Something else you could, Jennifer, is list your WL books in this thread in the Book Bazaar: **February** Wishlisted Multiples ONLY....save on shipping (SEE RULES)

This is for shipping multiple WL books so you can save on postage - you list the WL books you have and tell people to order 2 or more. Then they PM you with the books they want and you post them directly to their WL. You can also add some of those unpostables as freebies there too.

Date Posted: 2/17/2010 7:00 AM ET
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Jonascast-we have a Damaged Books Virtual Box going in the Games Forum.  We trade out damaged books for other damaged books we haven't ready yet. 

For the unpostable ones: if the WL ones are of a similar genre-you could try offering them on a deal-you'd save some postage and someone else gets some slighly damaged WL books.  Like 5 unpostable WL books for 3 credits or something like that.

Date Posted: 2/17/2010 11:46 AM ET
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Also, if you have a highly WL book with very minor damage, I bet you could get a credit for it anyway if you offer it in the Book Bazaar.

Date Posted: 2/17/2010 12:32 PM ET
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I wish that we could post damaged books for credit in the Book Bazaar but even there, you cannot post a damaged book in exchange for a credit or even 5 damaged books for 3 credits anywhere at PBS It's against the PBS rules.

You can however offer a damaged book as a freebee with an order of any other book on your shelf.  There is a Book Bazaar forum http://www.paperbackswap.com/forum/topic.php?t=117610 for Damaged Wish List books. You offer the damaged wish listed book as a free book with the order of any other book on your bookshelf. This is the only way to get rid of damaged books unless you participate in a damaged virtual box as Mary mentioned above.

Date Posted: 2/17/2010 1:43 PM ET
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Something else you could, Jennifer, is list your WL books in this thread in the Book Bazaar: **February** Wishlisted Multiples ONLY....save on shipping (SEE RULES)

This is for shipping multiple WL books so you can save on postage - you list the WL books you have and tell people to order 2 or more. Then they PM you with the books they want and you post them directly to their WL. You can also add some of those unpostables as freebies there too.

You can also find threads on some of the genre forums where you can list WL books and  ask  that interested members request 2 or more.  Someone did that recently and I was able to snap up 6 books of a particular series.  It worked out well for the other member, who got 6 credits and was able to ship all those together for just over $3, and I got a great set of 6 WL books. 

Date Posted: 2/17/2010 4:30 PM ET
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I wish that we could post damaged books for credit in the Book Bazaar but even there, you cannot post a damaged book in exchange for a credit or even 5 damaged books for 3 credits anywhere at PBS It's against the PBS rules.

It's not against PBS rules.  You just can't post damaged books into the PBS system (so no posting a damaged book and PMing the requester - "By the way, there's spaghetti stains on pages 2, 233, and 234.  Do you still want it?")

Asking for a credit in the Book Bazaar is fine, provided you say why the book is not postable up front.

Date Posted: 2/17/2010 5:32 PM ET
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Thanks so much for all the advice!  It seems like there are a number of ways to move unpostables.  I'm going to try posting in the bazaar and see if any of them go in a reasonable time period.  If not I'll start posting to the genre forums. 

 

BigAppleBookworm, check your PMs- I want to make sure you get a freebie with your order if you wanted one.

Date Posted: 2/17/2010 7:48 PM ET
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I stand corrected!! Just as Britney said- you can offer unpostables for credit. I checked with the other tour guides and got this information.

This is from one of the tour guides that contacted the team about this topic.

I thought I would share this little bit of info that I got out of the newswire with others since I see a lot of members that believe the way I did about ARCs and unpostable books. Here is the section of the newswire that prompted me to ask TPTB for clarification:

"ARCs and other unpostables can be swapped in the Book Bazaar Discussion Forum or offered as "freebie incentives" to request books from a bookshelf.  So they can still be exchanged here; it is just that they must not be posted to PBS Bookshelves.  All books posted to bookshelves must meet swapping criteria.   You can find new homes for your unpostables using the Book Bazaar - the items can be described in the Book Bazaar and members will know what they are getting."

It prompted me to send in feedback to confirm credits can be asked for in exchange for ARCs and unpostable books. They can! as long as you are not posting them to the system, you must offer them in the Bazaar so that people know what they are getting. This is very different from what I have seen and often see someone that is asking for a credit for an unpostable being told that they can only offer it for free with a postable book. Here is the message I got back:

Dear Tour Guide,

Sure, we don't mind if people ask for credits for unpostables (in Book Bazaar).  If someone wants to pay credits for unpostables, then they are doing it knowing they are getting an unpostable book.  Selling anything other than books, or selling for anything other than credits, or asking or offering more than PBS price for a postable book - those things are not permitted.

Have a great day!

The PaperBackSwap Team

Britney- Thanks for setting me straight and providing correct info to other members!!! You learn something new ever day!

Date Posted: 2/17/2010 7:48 PM ET
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I stand corrected!! Just as Britney said- you can offer unpostables for credit. I checked with the other tour guides and got this information.

This is from one of the tour guides that contacted the team about this topic.

I thought I would share this little bit of info that I got out of the newswire with others since I see a lot of members that believe the way I did about ARCs and unpostable books. Here is the section of the newswire that prompted me to ask TPTB for clarification:

"ARCs and other unpostables can be swapped in the Book Bazaar Discussion Forum or offered as "freebie incentives" to request books from a bookshelf.  So they can still be exchanged here; it is just that they must not be posted to PBS Bookshelves.  All books posted to bookshelves must meet swapping criteria.   You can find new homes for your unpostables using the Book Bazaar - the items can be described in the Book Bazaar and members will know what they are getting."

It prompted me to send in feedback to confirm credits can be asked for in exchange for ARCs and unpostable books. They can! as long as you are not posting them to the system, you must offer them in the Bazaar so that people know what they are getting. This is very different from what I have seen and often see someone that is asking for a credit for an unpostable being told that they can only offer it for free with a postable book. Here is the message I got back:

Dear Tour Guide,

Sure, we don't mind if people ask for credits for unpostables (in Book Bazaar).  If someone wants to pay credits for unpostables, then they are doing it knowing they are getting an unpostable book.  Selling anything other than books, or selling for anything other than credits, or asking or offering more than PBS price for a postable book - those things are not permitted.

Have a great day!

The PaperBackSwap Team

Britney- Thanks for setting me straight and providing correct info to other members!!! You learn something new ever day!

Date Posted: 2/17/2010 8:30 PM ET
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You learn something new everyday indeed.

I learned recently that if you put your books on individual hold, they lose their place in the FIFO line (I have very few books on my bookshelf and most of the books that get requested from me are WL.) Of course, I learned tha AFTER I put two books on hold who have like a gazillion copies posted. :)



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Date Posted: 2/17/2010 8:39 PM ET
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I've had great luck putting unpostable WL'd books in my signature line of my posts on the forums.  Jonascat, you post often on several forums here, so other members would most likely be willing to pay you a credit for a WL'd mildly unpostable book.  Try it and see.

Ruth

Date Posted: 2/17/2010 9:34 PM ET
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Thanks for the tip, Ruth!  I updated my signature and already had one book taken.  Right now I'm doing a package deal for the Star Trek books (I went through a Spock phase) and a free unpostable with any order expect the wishlisted unpostables.  Those are one credit each.  Does that make sense?